Shortly after my book, “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Food Rights” came out in 2014, the publicity agent I had engaged for book promotion alerted me she had a connection to Alex Jones of InfoWars, and that I had “an open invitation” to be interviewed by the conspiracy theory master. As a book author, you want more than almost anything else to pump sales. To do that, you need large audiences, of the sort produced by network talk shows or mainstream media publications like The Wall Street Journal and New York Times. My book subject was a tad narrow for the mainstream media, but was perfectly positioned for someone like Jones and his endless examples of government malfeasance.
There was just one little problem that I imagined…er, make that one big problem. I imagined him inquiring about rogue government agents being behind raids at Rawesome and other food clubs and farms, and about the U.S. Food and Drug Administration planting pathogens in raw milk to explain illnesses. Those would have been attention-getting narratives, but they weren’t my narratives. Should I go for the huge spike in book sales from Jones’ near certain speculation, or should I stay true to my research?
I actually didn’t need to agonize for very long. My answer was no. I didn’t write anything about the decision on my blog at the time because it felt like a personal decision, based on my journalist instincts, that this guy was bad news. I had nothing hard and fast to prove that the endless conspiracy theories he served up were false except for the fact that he never seemed to have real data to back up his allegations
Now we do have hard evidence of his mean-hearted destructiveness, confirmed by a jury of Alex Jones’ peers, via court decisions last week that Jones be ordered to pay nearly $50 million in damages for defamation to the parents of a child killed in a mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut in 2012. He had woven bizarre tales that the shooting didn’t happen, that the children and adults killed were actors, and on and on. At the trial, under oath, Jones testified that the Sandy Hook shooting was “100% real.” No one had to ask the followup question: So when you ranted that the murders hadn’t happened, weren’t you knowingly lying?
When the jury decisions came down, I once more breathed a sigh of relief that I never got involved with Jones. Much more than that, I ached for the poor parents who had to endure his years of taunting that their child wasn’t really murdered and that they were making it up. How can someone be so demented, so evil, that they would add to parents’ already terrible grief? What motivates such an individual?
Clearly, it’s someone who’s seriously disturbed….but not so disturbed that he isn’t determined to amass as much money as possible from spreading his crazy lies. The New York Times reports, from trial testimony, that even with the nearly $50 million in judgments in this case, Jones will be just fine financially—his company is worth something north of $135 million.
Hopefully this case is more than just one wacko conspiracy theorist getting his come-uppance. Hopefully it’s the beginning of a tamping down of a hysteria that has raged for too long in this country. If it is, the Sandy Hook parents who sued will have accomplished a great deal, not only on behalf of the memory of their child, but on behalf of the country.
David, if only more of our elected leaders and their constituents had your wisdom, integrity, and moral compass what a better country it would be. Unfortunately, I’m convinced that, until we do something to rectify an industrial food system devoid of BRAIN-ESSENTIAL nutrients, ever more of its victims will continue to devolve into lizard-brain fools like Alex Jones and his ilk.
Meant to include this trailer to a documentary film currently in production:
wow I woul like to see this! Like Weston Price said “Thinking is a biological function”
Thank you, Randy. One of the ironies about Alex Jones is that he apparently makes a good deal of his cash by selling nutritional supplements to people who read his conspiracy garbage. I know nothing about the quality or relevance of what he sells, and really am not interested in knowing much since, as you suggest, whatever he’s ingesting seems to have had overwhelmingly negative effects.
That documentary trailer you link to (“What About the Brain”) looks intriguing.
The use of disinformation agents throughout history is an interesting topic to research. Many of us followed Alex Jones and even Mike Adams years ago. It took many of us years to realize that they are disinformation agents, but that is what many of us have had to go through to get to a better truth. It helped us when information became available that both Jones and Adams had links to Stratfor, an Israeli intelligence firm. As is the case with many, they often mix a large percentage of truth with a few outright fabrications. So, these agents who have been discredited years ago, often become useful again when the powers that be want to discredit a spreading truth by associating it with a crackpot like Jones. I like how you were so knowledgeable back then about Jones, it gave me a chuckle anyway. It’s sad to see an America that has been under the trance of these disinformation agents, including what many consider to be reputable news organizations, for so long. CIA director William Casey’s 1981 statement that “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” rings truer than ever today. Jones is but a disinformation amateur when compared to mainstream propaganda rags like the New York times though.
You seem very sure of yourself, John. Stratfor is an Israeli intelligence firm? Maybe you have some inside info, but as far as much of the rest of the world is concerned, it’s a private publisher and consultant that doesn’t do a bad job of analyzing world trends and news.
If it was an Israeli intelligence firm, it certainly wouldn’t be so crazy as to engage Jones and Adams. Would you hire that pair of clowns to do something important in your business?
And the NYTimes is a disinformation center? Once again, you must have some special sources.
I don’t disagree that choosing among news sources is a bit like looking after your health, but in reality, there are some that are professional and trustworthy.
Thank you for sharing your near-encounter with Alex Jones, David. I’m sure you are so glad you followed your instincts in deciding whether to be interviewed by him! My heart goes out to the poor Sandy Hook parents, and all parents who have lost a child through a school shooting. What needless tragedies.
I’m glad you had the sense to decline. I have distanced myself from a lot of foodie groups. In 2013 I took a nursing research class working on my ADN to BSN, and I loved it. I also took Human Genetics and Pathophysiology. I carried a 4.0 those two years, and dug more deeply into those subjects than was remotely required. 4.0 is not my cumulative, but I’m proud I carried it for 2 years. I learned about levels of credibility of evidence. Between 2006 and now, we’ve been raising a child, now 16. We homeschooled from about 2008 to 2012. During those years, I was exposed to a plethora of alternative medicine information that circulates in large homeschool circles and various Christian denominations (7th Day Adventists!). When I later had access to a university database of databases, I read and compiled information on herbal remedy research for my own use, and for the uses of my nieces who were making balms, tinctures and salves from what they grew. I counseled them on not making claims. 9 years later, I am a sucker for People’s Pharmacy guests who explain the intricacies of for-profit medicine on all fronts; and for food as medicine. I honestly cannot hardly bear to read food blogs any more, as people make such crazy claims – especially about the thyroid. They don’t even know how things work.
It boggles my mind how people can support a person who is promoting a product for profit without unbiased back-up with anything approaching a high level of credibility. Funding skews what gets researched. Funding skews results. However, those are the results we have. Those are the results that I am required to live by as a health care provider. Some of what people tell me they do for health makes so little sense, has often been harmful, and sometimes fatal. Yet there is little one can say to convince them they are hurting themselves. I’ve spent the last 4 years educating people in their homes to try to keep them from rehospitalization. That is the focus of my job, and so long as something is not harming them, I keep the education pretty on task. Some of my patients have Infowars bumper stickers. That so many people could be duped by the likes of Alex Jones is terrifying. I take care of so many people who die, that I don’t really feel that people like him need remembered, let alone memorialized. I spend my off time on genealogy, digging up information on obscure people who are long gone; way beyond my own family. This helps me make everyone important.
I still read articles on e. coli 0157:H7 btw. I’m still extremely fascinated with immunity. I want to know more about the amplifications of COVID in a test, and the relationship of virus load to transmissibility. I think it is like drinking alcohol when you’re pregnant. No amount can be said to be safe. I’m no infectious disease nurse. It is a hobby for me; a fascination. To date, I have never tested positive for COVID-19, and I worked the entire pandemic as a nurse, intermittently taking care of people with COVID-19 in their homes. PPE is wonderful except when it is single digits and you have to don PPE at your car, or 90 degrees without air conditioning. But I wear it. I’ve tested whenever I’ve had any symptoms, or thought I may have been exposed. I did get vaccinated; was among the first. I’ve been told that I have a robust immune system. My reaction to the 1st booster (3rd vaccine) was debilitating, so I did not have the last vaccine offered. I have been drinking cranberry/avacado/kale/nut butter/almond milk smoothies through the entire thing except when storms have taken out my frozen cranberry supply. I eat garlic, and lots of beans. I know that never testing negative in no way implies I’ve never had it though. Back to Alex, I’ve turned a lot of noise off. Everyone, and I mean everyone who has shared anything by him the past two years has been unfriended. I just can’t even, with that crap.
Thanks for sharing. You reenforce the reality that we are basically responsible for our own health care, using conventional and alternative approaches as we determine what works best for ourselves. Your smoothie recipe sounds great. I’ve gotten into them, sans the cranberry, but with pumpkin seed protein, chia seeds, and bee pollen. And don’t forget the raw milk kefir!
I agree that Alex Jones engages in a great deal of hyperbole but what about mainstream media who report nothing at all? They abandoned journalistic ethics decades ago. In like manner, the CDC has been the mouthpiece of big pharma for an equally long time. So how does one find truth in the midst of hyperbole and outright lies? In countries such as Hitler’s Germany, former communist Russia and present communist China where only one narrative was and is given, people would find truth by simply understanding that the opposite of what was being said in the media was probably close to the truth. The same can be said for western mainstream media. Simply assume that on controversial topics, whatever they are trumpeting, the opposite is closer to the truth. In these days of misinformation on many sides we need to add a healthy dose of skepticism to what we listen to and read. Critical thinking has never been more important in the never ending search for truth.
Same thing happened to me years ago. I was contacted by InfoWars to be interviewed ?!
After some review I said NO!
They wanted to turn solid raw milk risk science into FDA conspiracy.
It’s not a conspiracy it’s a well organized policy. They print that policy everywhere.
InfoWars and Alex Jones are now connected to Trump and January 6th in a deep way.
With the FBI raid on his Florida house…. The house of lies is beginning to burn and fall down hard.
The CDC and FDA are both closely aligned with American Political and Economic culture. That does not make them criminal or part of a conspiracy. They are very much American.
That’s how our structure is. Work for the FDA and then retire onto regulated companies to make your retirement golden parachute.
That’s the normal.
What changes that structure is time and market forces. Plus plenty of research and a younger, more progressive group of leaders.
In California, serious changes have occurred on the last 20 years. Now Rawmilk is Mainstream
when my conspiracy minded farmer friends begin about how “the govt. is out to kill them or get rid of them” I try to remind them that the govt. is giving folks what they said they wanted for food, convenient, cheap, cheap, cheap, and no effort to prepare.
Mark, I guess you were out of the loop when the whole Brian Hooker thing happened at the CDC. Did you not watch Vaxxed? They are absolutely criminals at the CDC. 100%.
Have you read RFK’s book on Fauci yet? No? Why not? Afraid of what you will find out? Afraid you will have to change your stance? You should probably have your wife read it. She will be disgusted with what she finds out. And check out the references in the back. At least an inch thick.
Raw milk is mainstream in California because of moms like me who supported you and made it a household word.
Shameful how you treat us now. And there are a lot of us. You really need to get on the right side of this. As you said to Sally Fallon back in 2015, “Is this the hill you want to die on?”
For some reason the reply button to the right of each person’s comment doesn’t work. Well said Anne Marie. That Mark can make the comments he made in spite of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary regarding the collusion and lies of the CDC, FDA and all the other three-letter government organizations is, to me, incredulous. Mark appears to strain out a gnat while swallowing a camel. When Tedros the Great announced the birth of his love child, Covid-19 in March of 2020, I immediately began to look into the matter. It took me about a week to realize that the entire “pandemic” was nothing but a huge, worldwide cash grab by Big Pharma and an enormous clamp down on human liberty by those working behind the scenes. Alex Jones may have a lot of bluster in his speaking and he often attempts to convince by sheer volume of voice but he got a lot right. He may have overstepped regarding Sandy Hook and the pain caused by his bombast is regrettable. Likewise, Mike Adams has often been wrong on specific predictions but he has been correct on the overall direction that the world has been going. I may disagree on specifics that they speak of as I do on things that David espouses. However, I am learning to separate fact from fiction by casting a broad net and learning how to discern fact from fiction. I recommend, in addition to the books you recommend Anne Marie, books such as, Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins, Web of Deceit by Barry Lando, Bechamp or Pasteur by Ethel D. Hume, The Truth About COVID-19 by Mercola and Cummings, Virus Mania by Torsten Englebrecht et al and, Conceived in Liberty by Murray Rothbard to name a few.
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This is harassment of a pharmacist and is highly inappropriate. No wonder they get taken down. This guy just documented his own perpetration of harassing a health care worker. People wonder why they can’t get health care.
The FBI raid is indeed as Tulsi Gabbard pointed out “a Blatant abuse of power by those in power”… an obsessed elitist clique that in turn will further undermine the people’s trust in the U.S. government…
That’s not how I see it. This was a legal search authorized by Trump-appointed FBI director Christopher Ray and a federal judge, neither of whom would have done so without ample evidence. The search produced illegally held documents Trump had refused to return after ample opportunities to do so. If you or I ignored federal laws we’d end up in jail. Period. Why so many people think Trump is incapable of this, or if so that he should be above the law, is mystifying. If Trump is proven to have broken the law any rational patriotic American would agree he should be held accountable. If this was indeed “a blatant abuse of power by an obsessed elitist clique” it will ultimately be revealed and be major win for Gabbard, McCarthy, Fox News and the rest using it to further their own objectives.
… also, holding serial criminals accountable SHOULD restore our faith in democracy and the rule of law, which is the bedrock of a civil society. Letting Trump repeatedly flaunt the law and escape justice does far more damage. IMO Wray and Garland are to be applauded for their courage, as both were acutely aware of the risk, rage and death threats in store for them from the Trump bamboozled, especially if their actions were ultimately proven to be unwarranted.
Anyone that believes that this raid is just about Trump is sadly mistaken… This raid is clearly a reflection on how the Biden administration has repeatedly abused its authority and treated the American people with contempt, especially during these last two years of this so-called pandemic via its vaccine mandates that denied ordinary Americans the right to work and travel, in essence marginalizing anyone that held a different opinion in regards to these experimental injections and who chose to make an informed choice with respect to themselves and their children…
Ken, this sounds an awful lot like someone infected by FoxNews-itus. Symptoms include, among others:
Inability to distinguish fact from fiction
Absolute certainty of deep state conspiracies
Unwavering allegiance to fellow conspirators (Mercola, Northrup, RFK, etc.)
Believing legitimate news and information sources to be ‘fake.’
Disparaging personal attacks on those who see things differently
Propensity to change-the-subject when asked challenging questions
While this may not fit your narrative, lockdowns occurred in countries around the world well before Biden was ever elected. To whatever extent his administration may have “repeatedly abused its authority,” it’s utterly trivial compared to Trump’s long, ongoing list of self-serving, treasonous transgressions. And by the way, I haven’t received any donation requests from Biden lately, unlike Trump who continues to fleece his poor, gullible followers for millions, despite the extreme likelihood he’ll never hold public office again.
Indeed, this violation of human rights has been ongoing on a global scale for many years… The Joe Biden administration and the Justin Trudeau Administration have demonstrated a gross contempt for the autonomy of their country’s constitutions by participating in this global totalitarian violation of human rights. It is disgusting to witness the injustice under the auspices of these so-called leaders. There seems to be no depth that these Liberal/Democrat/Socialist administrations will not sink to in order to control the thoughts and actions of its citizens and of our democratic institutions.
Republicans and Democrats are the same…both controlled and captured by globalists…maybe Mark is, too.
If either regime has their way, our only food supply will look like this and only accessible if you tow the current social agenda:
and speaking of civil rights > compelling children of a minority persuasion, to drink white milk in a public school lunchroom, is a micro-aggression. but but but ? …. Weren’t we told that ‘race is just a social construct’?
An article from The Hill : substantiating my contention that the engine of the Campaign for REAL MILK is = hWhitefolks awakening to our heritage.
Regardless of the non-sense that “race is only a social construct’ … we know what’s good for us
“dietary racism” ? how can that be ?? !!
Civil rights groups, including Al Sharpton-led organization, urge USDA to fix ‘dietary racism’ in school lunch programs
Twenty-eight civil rights and health care groups announced Tuesday they have requested that the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) address “dietary racism” in national school lunch programs, raising concerns to the federal agency about forcing millions of minority children to drink cow’s milk without allowing them a healthier alternative.
In a letter to the USDA’s Equity Commission, the groups said the National School Lunch Program (NSLP) only incentivizes dairy milk, a policy they called “inherently inequitable and socially unjust” because children of color are more likely to be lactose intolerant — meaning they cannot fully digest sugars in dairy and can suffer from adverse effects after consumption.
The NSLP covers 30 million children in 100,000 schools across the U.S., a program the civil rights groups said children of color are historically overrepresented in.
“If Black lives matter, so does our health and nutrition, but the National School Lunch Program has consistently failed children of color,” said Milton Mills, a Washington, D.C., urgent care physician who has researched the topic, in a statement. “Either schoolchildren drink the milk they’re given and suffer in class while they’re trying to learn, or they go without a nutritionally significant portion of their meal.”
The letter was signed by leading national groups such as Progressive Democrats of America, the Maryland chapter of the NAACP, Switch4Good, the Center for a Humane Economy and the National Action Network Washington Bureau, which was founded by civil rights leader the Rev. Al Sharpton.
The USDA reimburses schools covered under the 76-year-old NSLP if they provide fluid milk during meals, which does not cover soy milk or other types of organic milk. Dairy milk must be served with every meal.
The federal agency does allow a nutritional substitute, but that requires a written statement from a student’s parent or guardian and schools must notify the state of a substitution. A written doctor’s note may also be required, according to the civil rights and health organizations, which, they added, most families cannot secure.
“It is patently discriminatory to require a doctor’s note for a nearly ubiquitous condition,” they wrote in the letter. “Black, Native American, Asian and Latino kids are being punished for their race and heritage.”
According to the civil rights and health groups, 80 percent of Black and Latino people, more than 90 percent of Asians, and more than 80 percent of Indigenous Americans are lactose intolerant, compared to 15 percent of White people.
They estimated that millions of minority children could be affected in the classroom because of the USDA policy, urging the agency to allow soy milk, a federally recognized nutritional product, as an official substitute in the NSLP.
“It is hard to imagine a more inequitable and socially unjust USDA practice than the force feeding of milk to [minority] children in our schools,” the letter reads.
“Until children of color are properly provided for in the USDA-funded NSLP, the ‘And Justice for All’ posters that the agency requires participating public schools to display in their lunch rooms is simply empty rhetoric as injustices are visited on millions of underserved children each day,” they added
by Brad Dress – The HILL
Feed All, Serve All, Love All.
Both the extremes of R or L will dislike moderates. I refuse to become an extremist.
I am sticking with clean pure delicious pathogen free raw milk and serving humanity and unselfishly teaching all farmers ( that want to know ) how to produce good safe raw milk.
In twenty years that is what will matter. All of the rest of this sewage will be compost by then.
Annie…. I hope you are doing well! Miss you.
I agree, and I am glad that both you and David did not go for an interview with Jones