You look at the map showing raw milk availability in the U.S., on the site of the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund, and you realize how far this country has come in making raw milk widely available—so much so that only New Jersey shows up on the map as banning raw milk. And even there, private food clubs operate in suburbs and small towns around the state, each week or two distributing raw milk to members.
But in Canada, which has allowed recreational marijuana nationally, ahead of the U.S., a wall of resistance remains against raw milk. It was as if an Ontario judge last year added an exclamation point to the country’s long ban, backed up by the threat of jail against raw dairy farmer Michael Schmidt, and essentially shut down his raw milk distribution.
But we should have known Schmidt wouldn’t take the action lying down. Late last year, his wife, Elisa, and 20 or so of his followers filed a legal challenge in Ontario, arguing that the ban on raw milk is a violation of the Canadian constitution.
And now, a court battle is under way. If the government’s all-hands-on-deck reaction is any indication, there is serious concern among the bureaucrats and the dairy cartel that controls dairy production and distribution in Canada that Schmidt and company mean business. The milk marketing board, the cartel that controls distribution of pasteurized milk in Canada, has even inserted itself into the case, apparently to add another level of legal expertise to back up the government.
The half-dozen or more affidavits filed by Canadian bureaucrats and scientists condemning raw milk as unsafe even includes a 33-page diatribe from American John Sheehan, chief dairy honcho of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. It concludes, almost laughably: “The US FDA encourages everyone charged with protecting the public health to prevent the sale of raw milk to consumers and not permit the operation of so-called ‘cow-sharing’ or other schemes designed as attempts at circumventing laws prohibiting sales of raw milk to consumers. To do otherwise would be to take a giant step backwards with public health protection.” Clearly, many of his colleagues at the state level in the U.S. pretty much ignore the FDA’s policy.
Sheehan’s “encouragement” has been widely ignored. Given the growing acceptance of raw milk on this side of the border, the plaintiffs in the Ontario case sense they have a shot at overturning Canada’s long-standing ban of raw milk. They’ve launched a crowdfunding campaign on GoFundMe that has so far raised more than $77,000 to fund legal expenses.
The plaintiffs complain on their GoFundMe page that their opponents in court have sought ongoing delays in the case. But they note that “with every delay in our case, the scientific evidence just keeps getting better. In Canada there are not enough identified people consuming (raw milk), and no funders for such studies anyhow, but there are huge populations in Europe, and increasingly elsewhere, with legal access to raw milk.
“So with every passing year, including the dark year of 2018, the dairy laws become more and more antiquated. And every year, more people are turning away from pasteurized dairy products. Change happens to all of us, including to the establishment forces.”
Michael Schmidt has been fighting this battle in one form or another—through government raids, a hunger strike, jail time, and fast-vanishing legal victories—for something on the order of 26 years. Support his GoFundMe campaign, and be prepared to join in on a large victory celebration that is very much overdue.
i never want to make a comment first, I’m usually a follower. I think though, that people should take a serious look at “The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion”. Without that knowledge, most people think that the world is rolling along at the whim if incompetent and corrupt pubic servants and politicians. The raw milk story follows that plan in that the elite and the insiders drink it, but yet the press tells a different story.
You come across as a bit of a dipshit.
owenf … you come across as more than a bit of an ignoramus
“In Canada there are not enough identified people consuming (raw milk)”
The key word in your sentence David, is “identified”… There is a wealth of people consuming raw milk in Ontario/Canada… they just do it covertly.
The only reason why Dairy Farmers of Ontario have entered into the fray is because they want to protect their supply management system. Indeed, and they work hand in hand with a health care system that is virtually controlled by narrow-minded orthodox medical doctors who have pretty much assured, ever since the supply management system was instituted, that legal raw milk sales direct to the consumer would not see the light of day.
This legal challenge in Ontario arguing that the ban on raw milk is a violation of the Canadian constitution is indeed crucial… just as a legal challenge in the early 1980s in Ontario was crucial to the parents of vaccine damaged children arguing that the Provinces’ vaccine mandate forcing vaccines on their children was in violation of the constitution. Fortunately, the right to refuse vaccinations based on conscientious belief was upheld.
Unfortunately this hasn’t stopped the Canadian Medical Association (CMA) cartel’s anti-choice policies and formidable lobby powers, which serve as an ongoing threat to quash our right to refuse vaccines and likewise our right to consume raw milk. The same can be said for the American Medical Association (AMA) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) who have adopted policies that infringe on freedom of choice and are hard at work attempting to convince state governments to follow suit.
What the DFO could do — instead of fighting raw milk consumers as they have been doing — is to bring to the table an alternative: to issue a class of specialty quota for farms to provide “certified unpasteurized milk for direct consumption.”
“Certified” meaning the same as the Vorzugsmilch system in Germany — that it must meet certain quality standards — e.g. such as RAWMI Common Standards and RAWMI listing.
Also, farms holding raw milk quota should be dedicated raw milk farms, NOT also selling milk to the processors. You can’t serve two masters. This should not be quota for “incidental sales” such as what several U.S. states allow — you end up with milk produced by methods intended for pasteurization (e.g. high risk of being contaminated by pathogens — up to 26% by some studies – see http://tinyurl.com/raw-milk-comparison) being flogged to unsuspecting consumers. Certified farms should also have to meet exacting standards such things as animal diet, i.e. pasturing.
In addition to certification regarding production standards, farms would also need to e licensed by DFO of course.
Ken, would the petitioners be open to raw milk being produced under supply management under conditions such as these, as opposed to outside the system as they appear to be petitioning for?
Vera,
As I understand it Michael Schmidt previously attempted to establish a dialogue and negotiate with Dairy farmers of Ontario… It didn’t appear that they were interested in what he had to say and I doubt that they would be any more interested in listening to the petitioners… that is unless, this court case goes in the petitioners favor .
Ken, consumers approaching them may be responded to differently than a farmer approaching them. Consumers have purchasing power.
Plus, current pressures on the Canadian dairy industry such as USMCA and the growing popularity of “dairy alternatives” may now make DFO more interested in expanding domestic market opportunities. And the new scientific evidence of raw milk safety may also make the DFO more inclined now to talk.
Vera,The petitioners are not consumers per se… they own a piece of the cow.
Dairy farmers of Ontario don’t give hoot about safety… all they care about is protecting their supply management system/quota… It is much more convenient for them to leave the safety of milk sold at the retail level in the hands of the processors food inspection agency.
actually /// the people who thought they were members of the cowshare at Glenncoulton farm, did not “own” a share of a cow.
in his ruling on the appeal of the Schmidt case, brought by the AG of Ontario, Mister Justice Tetley found as a matter of fact, that there was no nexus between any given person, and particular animals within the group of bovines at issue. The judge then went on in his Reasons to draw us a roadmap of how it could be done properly, in law. The most interesting part to me, these days, is = his advice that it is LIKELY the Crown would make an exemption for personal use, if that’s put to them. In BC, we have that in hard copy, in an official policy statement from the BC Farm Industry Review Board and also, the BC Milk Marketing Board.
Awesome, Mark! Glad to hear it.
Sylvia,
Peg is joining me at the meeting. I will report back after. See will see how it goes. It is with USDA. They fund food safety grants all the time. Huge pot of funds. Rawmi woul fit this model perfectly. We will see what they think about raw milk and RAWMI model. Fingers crossed.
We have the data and peer reviewed proof.
In regards to A1 and A2 milk… “The American dairy industry doesn’t recognize the difference; the New Zealand dairy industry recognizes the difference. The American dairy industry is in free fall. The New Zealand industry is flying high.
‘While many still scoff at the difference, A2 is gaining ground slowly and garnering more loyal patrons. This conversation is vital and important for folks who want to inform themselves about food choices. This is why censorship for conversations, like Facebook is doing with vaccinations, is so detrimental to freedom of choice. By whose prejudice will conversations be monitored?
‘A free society must preserve the freedom to express ideas. Otherwise you have tyranny. Has science been wrong in the past? Yes, lots of times. Like when science told us to stop eating butter and lard and use hydrogenated vegetable oil. Science is highly subjective and political based on the fad du jour. Choice demands the ability to converse about the alternatives.”
https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog
A Class Action Lawsuit could be put against Health Canada for preventing people from having a choice of raw milk that is certified safe. Check out the Medical Milk Commission that existed even when raw milk was illegal in New Jersey. All the evidence of pasteurized milk making people sick because of milk intolerance verses all the medical evidence of health conditions improving when consuming raw milk may have never been presented in court. It has always been about breaking the law about distribution and selling it. Check True Hope vs Health Canada or Judge allowed raw milk picked up at a farm East of Edmonton.
no, Health Canada is the wrong target for anything to do in Her Majesty’s Courts re raw milk. In the Dominion of Canada, civil rights are the purview of each individual province. Raw milk was being sold, quite legally, in British Columbia before the monstrosity known as “Health Canada” existed according with provincial statute.
Lately : In the case of the Portland Hotel Society, lawyer Craig Jones acting for the AG of BC, prevailed with the argument that “shooting galleries” = ( safe spaces for drug addicts! ) fall under the authority of the province, not the federal govt. Same with the argument about raw milk being necessary for “self medication’
at the URL below, the Readers Response in the Lancaster Farming newsletter, is worthwhile for fans of this blog. The precis by Roman Stoltzfoos is very good … he nails it
https://www.lancasterfarming.com/news/editorials/raw-milk-reader-response-march/article_a46d384c-4408-11e9-8246-23c0c3327c58.html
this is what they’re doing in the United Queendom of Great Britain and N. Ire-land = a trade association of producers of raw drinking milk
https://www.rawmilkproducers.co.uk/membership
Could the Raw Milk Boom Be a Lifeline for Struggling Farmers?
https://civileats.com/2019/03/12/could-the-raw-milk-boom-be-a-lifeline-for-struggling-farmers/
Vaccines had little to no impact at prevented disease and the pasteurization of milk was certainly not a constructive approach at preventing illness … Appropriate nutrition, improved hygiene and improved living conditions were the three key instrumental factures that led to a reduction of disease and illness.
As the following insightful article states, “Standing before his colleagues on October 19, 1970, Harvard’s Dr. Edward H. Kass gave a speech to the annual meeting of the Infectious Diseases Society of America… Dr. Kass took his infectious disease colleagues to task, warning them that drawing false conclusions about WHY mortality rates had declined so much could cause them to focus on the wrong things. As he explained:
“…we had accepted some half truths and had stopped searching for the whole truths. The principal half truths were that medical research had stamped out the great killers of the past —tuberculosis, diphtheria, pneumonia, puerperal sepsis, etc. —and that medical research and our superior system of medical care were major factors extending life expectancy, thus providing the American people with the highest level of health available in the world. That these are half truths is known but is perhaps not as well known as it should be.””
The article goes on to state, “Dr. Kass was trying to make a simple point to his colleagues, but one with profound implications for public health. His point was so important, I’m going to quote him in really big font to try and drive it home:
“This decline in rates of certain disorders, correlated roughly with socioeconomic circumstances, is merely the most important happening in the history of the health of man, yet we have only the vaguest and most general notions about how it happened and by what mechanisms socioeconomic improvement and decreased rates of certain diseases run in parallel.””
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/the-impact-of-vaccines-on-mortality-decline-since-1900-according-to-published-science/?utm_source=mailchimp
Dr Heckman,
Thank you for the Civileats link. Finally a great article that really speaks truth!
Breaking News! Reports out of Canada document 4 deaths as a result of pasteurized chocolate milk in Ontario Canada.
Post pasteurized milk contamination is damn dangerous. Listeria M can be fatal in post pasteurized milk conditions. I will find link and post it.
Mark
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/25/3/pdfs/18-0742-combined.pdf
34 ilnessses with 4 deaths from pasteurized chocolate milk in Ontartio Canada.
Interesting that these deaths occurred over 7 months two years ago??? Why the long wait to release this data ????
Clearly a big embarrassment to the Canadian dairy industry. The entire guarantee of perfect milk safety that only comes from the pasteurization process is tragically false. Very false and highly misleading.
Harrell’s CEO provides insight on decision to discontinue glyphosate sales
https://www.golfcourseindustry.com/article/harrells-glysophate-sales-turf/
Sleep deprived chickens…
“ANYTHING BUT NATURE”
https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog
“Meanwhile, here at our farm, we’ve already solved it simply by offering a more natural production model, a life that allows a chicken to be a chicken. A bird naturally goes to sleep at night; their high metabolism requires a good rest cycle. At its most fundamental paradigmatic level, the industry does not even consider the birdness of the chicken. At all. Therein lies the most insidious philosophy.”
Yes, and only if we could allow cows to be cows, sheep to be sheep, pigs to be pigs and turkeys to be turkeys rather then manipulate their external and internal environment with a never-ending array of unnatural toxic manipulations.
The Dairy Crisis is Hurting Organic and Grassfed Farms in New York
https://civileats.com/2019/03/13/the-dairy-crisis-is-hurting-organic-and-grassfed-farms-in-new-york/
Here is a quick report from RAWMI board members Mark Mcafee and Peg Coleman.
We asked for a meeting with high level USDA NIFA team directors and we sure got one. In one room we had six division directors ( or other USDA program management) for most of an hour of time. Our question was this: is there grant funds available for food safety training of organic and raw milk dairymen.
They were fascinated by our discussions and presentation. They wanted to know how we actually produced very low risk raw milk. We explained it and they were intrigued.
The answers is yes, there are a huge number of programs at the USDA that fit our request. We felt welcomed and very much appreciated by the USDA.
I started off our conversation by thanking them for the USDA “Get to Know your farmer and Get to know your food program”. I told them that it had been a huge success in certain markets like farmers markets. I further explained that when a consumer meets a farmer and gets to know on farm food… that food is raw milk! It is not processed !!
I said, there is a very important follow up piece of the USDA program that includes farmer training on how to produce raw milk for human consumption. It is so different than PMO milk for intended pasteurization.
Lots of great questions and good discussions.
RAWMI will be working very hard to submit many grant applications in the coming months.
We have plenty of work to do. We have Farmers to train and consumers to feed in this new emerging market. New farmer friendly technologies are emerging that will transform raw milk into protentially the lowest risk food on earth.
It’s an exiting time.
“Our immune system is not designed 2b@war with nature. When it is functioning properly, it shakes hands with the environment. The pHARMa backed sickcare system holds opposite view. Like so many other systems, it sees waging war as primary function and peace not worth pursuing.” Dr. Rick Kirschner
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtTeDboUwAUOGzo.jpg
Ken,
Good one. I love it!
Salon repeats raw milk story
https://www.salon.com/2019/03/16/could-the-raw-milk-boom-be-a-lifeline-for-struggling-farmers_partner/
Dr Joe,
The peak of hypocrisy lays at the feet of the FDA.
When nearly all of the EU peer reviewed published raw milk research is available for review on PUBMED and NIH, that is hypocrisy.
Pubmed is the gold standard for physician reference. If a research article is posted at NIH or Pubmed, it is considered a reasonable reference to use to support a decision in medical practice. Peer review means a body peer of science researchers has reviewed the evidence and agrees that the study uses appropriate measures and standards.
There are so many raw milk benefits studies that are published at NIH and Pubmed.
These references meet all the measures required by the FDA, yet the FDA refuses to acknowledge them. In fact the FDA denies their validity and attacks them. One recent attack claimed that farm fresh milk was not raw milk.
My question is this: who is going to change the culture at the FDA. On its face, this is clearly evidence of and the sign of a completely corrupt organization that is no longer driven my facts. Instead it is motivated by political and market allegiance to the failing pasteurized milk industry.
I was very impressed by our meeting with the USDA this last week in DC. None of that junk thinking. It was straight up solid questions and an invitation to help farmers be the best and safest they can be in service to consumers.
I look forward to the day that the FDA retires it’s old guard and a new face grounded in truth and peer reviewed science emerges.
Politics has no place in science and evaluating hard facts.
Mark, I think that there is a big difference in corporate culture between the Department of Health and Human Services of which the FDA and the CDC are divisions, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Similar to in Canada where there exists the same division between the anti-raw milk Health ministries and the open-minded Agriculture ministries.
When you see news reports of tornadoes over and over, you eventually think that they are the most looming public disaster ever. The CDC/FDA culture is immersed in reports of how dangerous foods are — a repeated message over and over again, to the point where employees form a heightened fear which exceeds the actual risk. And you discount anything which may threaten your held opinion — hence they discount the European articles. To deal with their cognitive dissonance, they use one of the 4 coping methods: “Ignore or deny information that conflicts with existing beliefs.”
Reich’s term “emotional plague” as used by Dr. Richard Schwartzman in his article “Government vs. Raw Milk” is so accurate – it is a plague of fear and panic.
Reich’s term “emotional plague” as used by Dr. Richard Schwartzman in his article “Government vs. Raw Milk” is so accurate – it is a plague of fear and panic.
http://orgonomist.blogspot.com/2010/02/government-vs-raw-milk_22.html
Dr Heckman,
Having experienced being part of the leadership of conventional dairy organizational leadership, I know first hand what incompetent leadership is. The conventional dairy leadership and its systems are totally consumer disconnected. They are defensive and don’t know much about the markets they serve. They don’t even attend the very science conventions that they fund!! Dairymen see the processors as a place to get rid of their milk. They do not understand that consumers must dollar vote in order to have a market. That is why dairy programs always ask for “farm bill handouts” instead of structural change.
Dairymen in the conventional and even most of the organic systems are simply producers that dump into the “ dairy milk disposal system” and then demand a check from that system.
There is no intelligent thinking going on to listen to the end consumers. What ever market information and signals they do receive, they don’t understand and can not relate too. It is a structural disconnect.
I have attended the California Milk Advisory Board market briefings. The marketing data is spot on. Yet… dairyman don’t listen or Act in it. I sure do!! It’s free to me and it’s good data.
It is horrible…. but it is a sign of the end of an era. Systems that fail to respond to market signals by definition will die.
I have begged farmers to join together. Mostly they refuse, thinking that if enough die off, the survivors will thrive.
That thinking has not ever worked. Collaboration is a higher moral plane…. much higher than competition and certainly higher than canabalization and neighbor on neighbor predation.
With the CAFO, “over supply” is here to stay. With the CAFO, price below cost of production is here to stay as well. With so many consumers going to plant based or back to raw?? All because dairymen can not hear the signals or act on them.
I know one dairyman with 300,000 cows in several states. He wants to see prices drop even further to completely eliminate all competition.
That is sick and warped thinking.
It turns out that raw milk is more dangerous than pasteurized 100 times. Despite this, the popularity of raw milk is growing every year. Most people believe that the proteins and antibodies contained in raw milk are much more beneficial than those subjected to the pasteurization process.
In addition, some believe that raw milk reduces lactose intolerance and reduces the risk of an allergic reaction.
Recent scientific research shows that milk has the ability to inhibit degenerative processes in the brain, through a compound called glutathione, which affects neurons.
According to the study, if you drink 3 cups of milk daily, you can prevent the development of diseases such as Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s.
“it turns out” … what the hell are you talking about?
asserting something with with nothing to support it, just muddies the waters of discourse. Show us your Evidence … you know …. that which can be tested. “If it can’t be tested, it isn’t evidence” Wigmore on Evidence.
no wonder the dairy industry is in such bad shape, in America. The people who run Dairy Farmers of H’america put it on the wrong tragectory. Below is the URL to their 2019 convention …. where the theme is “One world”…
their delusions of grandeur = that their mandates is: “feeding the world” = has blinded them to simply providing proper nutrition to the people who live here.
https://www.thefencepost.com/news/dairy-farmers-of-america-meeting-emphasizes-cooperatives-commitment-to-farmers/
Gordon,
For a moment when reading the article I had this uncanny feeling that I was at a Canadian Milk Marketing Board/Dairy Framers of Canada annual convention…
How can these bullshit artists at Dairy Farmers of America look at the dairy farmers they represent across the US straight in the face???
Their fanciful dream of grandeur is the polar opposite of what the following Milwaukee Journal Sentinel article is pointing out; and in fact, what many rural papers across the United States is pointing out about the state of the Dairy industry… The article’s subtitle sums it up well, “Farmers cling to a dream that, for some, has become a nightmare”.
https://www.jsonline.com/in-depth/news/special-reports/dairy-crisis/2019/02/21/wisconsin-dairy-farms-failing-milk-prices-fall/2540796002/
a good article answers “yes” to the question … ‘as concern for animal welfare grows, will consumers put their money where their mouth is?”
telling = retailers make better profit margin on the higher-quality product.
https://www.bcbusiness.ca/As-concern-for-the-welfare-of-farm-animals-grows-will-consumers-put-their-money-where-their-mouths-are
in political activism, it’s important to figure out ‘what would winning be?’
at this URL is an excellent explanation of how assertion of local food sovereignty came about in Maine
https://downeast.com/free-the-udders/
Raw Milk: Reader Response, March 9, 2018
https://www.lancasterfarming.com/news/editorials/raw-milk-reader-response-march/article_a46d384c-4408-11e9-8246-23c0c3327c58.html
“It turns out that raw milk is more dangerous than pasteurized 100 times. ”
Forgive my Anglo-Saxon, but what you heard, Milkfrothertop, is bullshit.
This commonly-touted claim of “150x more dangerous” originates in an article by CDC employee Adam Langer and his associates, published in 2012. You can read the original online at https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/18/3/11-1370_article.
Some of the flaws in this study:
1) It is based on data from 1993 to 2006. That is eons ago as far as science is concerned. Plus the CDC’s old EFORS reporting system was less accurate (paper-based until 1997) than the NORS system which replaced in 2009.
2) The study conflates outbreaks from fluid milk with outbreaks from cheese. Cheese is an entirely different product from fluid milk. The production of cheese (and I’m a cheesemaker so I know this first-hand) introduces many additional critical contamination points — opportunities for the product to become contaminated by pathogenic bacteria and these able to multiply. (For example, have you cleaned and sanitized all your equipment properly?) It also includes illegally imported and distributed queso fresco. And there is the additional issue of using truly raw vs. thermalized milk.
3) The authors low-ball consumption estimates — basing their calculations on the assumption that 60 days is completely legal everywhere in the US.
If you want to see up-to-date-science using the same CDC outbreak data but more recent (from 2005 to 2016) then see Table 1 in the same Whitehead article, comparing outbreaks and illnesses from different types of dairy products. Yes, there are more outbreaks from unpasteurized fluid milk than from pasteurized fluid milk (an ultra-low risk food product), but your chance of dying if you get sick from eating pasteurized cheese is over 30x higher. Plus outbreak rates due to raw fluid milk are falling while consumption rates are increasing.
This is strange: Half of the comment which I typed and submitted was not posted. This includes most of “point 3” which now no longer makes sense as it appears on the screen, as half of it vanished. I’m going to try to retype and re-submit he part which disappeared, which includes an addition points 4 to 6.
Here are the missing pieces, as best as I recall. If part of my comment disappears again, I’ll re-post below.
3) The authors low-ball consumption estimates — they claim that <1% of dairy products are consumed raw. But unpasteurized dairy products include the unpasteurized cheeses which are readily available in the dairy cases of major grocery stores. Consumption rates were likely far higher than this even in 2006/2007, and are even higher today.
4) The Raw Milk Institute was established in 2011 and has been the game-changer for safe raw milk production, as it is the first HACCP-based system which farmers can implement to low-risk fluid milk "from grass to glass." You can't generalized milk from prior to 2011 to all raw milk being produced today. See Figure 6 in the Whitehead and Lake article to see the effect of just one one-day RAWMI workshop on outbreak rates in PA — http://currents.plos.org/outbreaks/article/recent-trends-in-unpasteurized-fluid-milk-outbreaks-legalization-and-consumption . Given that the pasteurized dairy industry implemented HACCP in processing plants decades ago with government assistance, it's not fair to compare a food sector which has had HACCP with one which has lacked HACCP and which government repeatedly refused to assist.
5) Langer assumes that ALL raw dairy products are illegal in states where there are laws restricting the sale or distribution of raw fluid milk. This is false. Unpasteurized cheeses aged more than 60 days are completely legal everywhere in the US under Federal law.
6) The Langer study is based on 73 outbreaks related to raw dairy — with only 46 of them related to unpasteurized fluid milk and a further 27 related to cheese. The Whitehead study used 152 related to related to unpasteurized fluid milk. A larger dataset of far more recent data is likely to be considerably more accurate.
Typo- meant “critical control points”, not “critical contamination points”
“Attacking Ourselves: Top Doctors Reveal Vaccines Turn Our Immune System Against Us”
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/attacking-ourselves-top-doctors-reveal-vaccines-turn-our-immune-system-against-us?fbclid=IwAR1zR4YIGzNbXHGusn5RwzWxW43GawM7Bb2l7F61WUtY00phxU_-rKb1TdA
“No one would accuse Yehuda Shoenfeld of being a quack. The Israeli clinician has spent more than three decades studying the human immune system and is at the pinnacle of his profession… Hardly surprising that Shoenfeld has been called the “Godfather of Autoimmunology…”
‘But something strange is happening in the world of immunology lately and a small evidence of it is that the Godfather of Autoimmunology is pointing to vaccines – specifically, some of their ingredients including the toxic metal aluminum – as a significant contributor to the growing global epidemic of autoimmune diseases.”
“Ten years of cutting edge research into aluminum’s effects on the immune system has revealed primarily how wrong they (pro-vaccine immunologists) were. And how little they know.” Emphasis in brackets in mine…
For a complete list of autoimmune disorders visit he American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association, Inc.
https://www.aarda.org/diseaselist/
“EPA Proposes Use of 650,000 Pounds of Antibiotics Per Year on Citrus Fields”
https://www.ecowatch.com/citrus-farming-antibiotics–2631517723.html?fbclid=IwAR2s3kD1v05qYQ_IetQfAIcm3cp9DMtAjDXuug1C42aGJb4-COxKrikqER0
Of course if someone gets sick the CDC and folks like Bill Marler will focus on and blame bacteria in food!!! They appear to “clearly” lack the foresight and common sense necessary to constructively address the root of the problem… or is dollar signs that is blocking their vision???
It should be “heed” not head…
Ken,
30 years ago I was a conventional apple grower. The PCA would advise to spray agrimycin ( antibiotics ) on the apple trees to control Fireblight.
For several years I sprayed agrimycin and every year I had Fireblight. When I changed to organic systems, I never sprayed agrimycin and…. Never had Fireblight again.
Weird how nature works. But even weirder is that mankind can be so blind to nature and not observe and learn from her!
Ken,
30 years ago I was a conventional apple grower. The PCA would advise to spray agrimycin ( antibiotics ) on the apple trees to control Fireblight.
For several years I sprayed agrimycin and every year I had Fireblight. When I changed to organic systems, I never sprayed agrimycin and…. Never had Fireblight again.
Weird how nature works. But even weirder is that mankind can be so blind to nature and not observe and learn from her!
The Challenge of Dealing with Contaminants in Vegetables
https://www.growingproduce.com/vegetables/the-challenge-of-dealing-with-contaminants-in-vegetables/?e=Heckman@njaes.rutgers.edu&utm_source=realmagnet&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=avgenews+03212019
Can human pathogens be reduced by dung beetles and soil bacteria?
https://www.healtheuropa.eu/human-pathogens-reduced-dung-beetles/90831/
What seems to get lost in our belligerent endeavor to control everything from A to Z is the importance of beneficial soil microorganisms such as bacteria, fungi, protozoa, nematodes and insects such as the dung beetle…
The rarely thought of dung beetle is indispensible to a well-balanced ecosystem, yet it gets lambasted from every direction, including the systematic chemical and bioengineered assaults on plants, soils, animals and humans; an assault, that has resulted in a reduction of the dung beetles population in areas where intensive non organic agricultural practices have taken over.
As I previously stated on this blog, “So often forgotten in our endeavor to satisfy our human fetish to control, is the all important dung beetle and the role that it plays with respect to the interacting community of organisms from mammals to parasites to microbes. Indeed, when it comes to parasites and other microbes for example, whose life cycle often includes time spent in the soil, the dung beetle that reside there consumes many of these microorganism and serves as an important mechanism of control”.
The dung beetle deals with one hell of a lot of crap (pun intended) in order to make farming, food and life sustainable. At times, being an organic farmer, I too feel like a dung beetle, having to deal with all the self-righteous busy bodies and regulators that have an enamoured ritualistic reverence for toxic chemicals and drugs and are hell-bent on implementing mandates compelling there use.
Raw Milk, Raw Emotions
https://www.lancasterfarming.com/news/editorials/raw-milk-raw-emotions/article_bfeb3e3a-ac43-5956-8388-efd27632695d.html
Ken,
I also feel like the lowly dung beetle at times. We should get tee shirts. Harness nature. Stop harassing her!!
How about this one, a bit pricy though…
“SHIT HAPPENS… ROLL WITH IT”
https://www.etsy.com/sg-en/listing/648569987/dung-beetle-entomology-tshirt-tshirts
No need to dramatize everything like that.
“Anatomy of a Science Study Censorship”
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/anatomy-science-study-censorship?fbclid=IwAR2krrEwdMAnQHlxEJAJhCJhWqxys_293XNS9LaeEH7KGEt7Z-derO7Jtwo
“Elsevier’s “withdrawal” of a small veterinary study breaks all the rules of scientific publishing. The biggest name in scientific literature has produced fake medical journals for Merck’s advertisers before, so yanking a study that doesn’t pass the vaccine industry’s sniff test would be nothing.”
From Personal Tragedy to Worldwide Mission
Food science professor aims to prevent families from enduring what her family did
https://cfaes.osu.edu/stories/from-personal-tragedy-worldwide-mission
She is an amazing woman. I met her close to a decade ago, brought her over to our secret HUS Moms Facebook group, where she recently conducted an exploratory research study. All very exciting.
Mary,
Do you think that she would support testing of raw milk with a highly accurate Cibusdx 30 min on farm pathogen test ? That test detects Ecoli 0157H7, campy, listeria. And salmonella.
RAWMI has met with USDA food safety directors and there are huge amounts of grant funds available for this type of system and the RAMP training that would go with it. Cibusdx becomes the Critical Control Point before consumption.
Would you support this program?
Mark
You would need to contact her and ask.
40 Years ago
Three Mile Island nuclear power plant accident
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It is ironic and amazing to observe those who claim that global warming/climate change is primarily caused by manmade CO2 and methane emissions, increasingly turn their attention to an energy source that was once considered anathema by many of them.
Looking for Alternative Markets with Alan Kozak
https://player.fm/series/back-to-the-roots-podcast/looking-for-alternative-markets-with-alan-kozak
Alan Kozak, conventional dairy farmer and grazier from Holmes County, OH, talks to us about seeking out alternative dairy markets that can help to support small farms in a very tough conventional milk market.
Colt McCoy Confirms That Yes, He Does Drink Raw Milk: I Grew Up This Way
Reference: Washington Post March 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_McCoy
Also at http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/colt-mccoy-would-clarify-some-things-about-his-milk-drinking-habits .
I wonder which brand he drinks? 🙂
Raw Milk Pet Food Conference, April 20th
Please share widely with all of your networks and affiliations.
https://www.petfoodjustice.com/
I wonder what they will say at this conference? After all, this is a very important question.
What going on in Tennessee with raw milk. Mark, what are your thoughts on this?
https://www.wvlt.tv/content/news/Briggs-Tennessee-has-no-regulation-over-raw-milk-proposes-bill–507814631.html
Not that you asked for my opinion, Mary, but here it is: Briggs’ first bill would have made it illegal to consume milk from a co-owned animal. As a Class C misdemeanor offence, consumers could be punished with up to 30 days jail, a $50 fine, or both. It’s been suggested elsewhere that raw milk consumption should be made illegal, but this is the first time anyone has advanced a law based on this idea.
But if herdsharing was banned, many farms are licensed to sell it as “pet milk”. So if herdsharing went away, consumption would not.
Instead, by this news-clip, it sounds like he is taking a new approach: state registration of herdshare farms, warning labels on bottles, and a mandatory food safety training course. None of these ideas are new, e.g. Idaho and Washington State herdshares must register with their respective state governments.
Senator Briggs has learned that there are methods which can be employed in safe raw milk production to reduce risk. I think he has learned about RAWMI because at 01:52 he mentions several important elements in RAWMI on-farm food safety plans, the RAMP and SSOP: cleanliness of containers, storage tanks, and lines from the milking machines; and the importance of temperature, maintaining the cold chain.
Perhaps RAWMI can become involved in providing training in TN and/or curriculum development.
Conclusion: This new approach is a huge improvement.
So Vera, if a state that does not have any legal access to raw milk was attempting to pass a bill like Tennessee currently has (no regulations) would you support the passing of that bill?
I will answer your question, Mary, if you answer a question of my own:
If a state which does not have legal access to raw milk was attempting to pass a bill which included a regulatory package consisting of mandatory (1) licensing; (2) inspection; (3) bacterial testing standards (e.g. coliform count <10, SPC<10,000); (4) regular milk sample testing for coliforms, SPC, and the 4 major pathogens with frequency based on farm size (minimum of monthly testing for the "3-cow farms" but more frequent for larger farms); (5) HACCP-based on-farm food safety plans (e.g. RAMP and SSOP); and (6) publication of farm bacterial test results and food safety plans on a 3rd party website for consumers to review prior to choosing a farm, would you support the passing of that bill?
I could agree to all of the above if all bottles of milk had this warning label and directions for home pasteurization.
Warning: Unpasteurized milk, also known as raw milk, is a raw agricultural product and may contain harmful bacteria (not limited to E. coli, Campylobacter, Listeria, and Salmonella) and can lead to serious injury and even death. Pregnant women, infants, children, the elderly, and persons with lowered resistance to disease (immune compromised) have higher risk for harm, which may include bloody diarrhea, vomiting, fever, dehydration, Hemolytic Uremic Syndrome, Guillian-Barre Syndrome, Reactive Arthritis, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, miscarriage, or death.
Note: Raw Milk must be kept refrigerated at 40 degrees at all times.
Then all agricultural products, not just raw milk, should have this warning label.
Implementing procedures such as those six I describe reduces the effective risk from pathogenic bacteria to near zero — with test results on-par with those of pasteurized milk (e.g. in Germany, Vorzugsmilch and pasteurized test positive at similar rates for Campylobacter, Verocytotoxin-producing E.Coli (VTEC), Listeria monocytogenes, and Salmonella). In fact, Vorzugsmilch tested positive for VTEC less frequently than did pasteurized milk (1.03% vs. 1.88%).
And two pilot studies of the efficacy of RAWMI training are showing even lower contamination rates than Vorzugsmilch — e.g. see a summary of one of these at http://tinyurl.com/raw-milk-comparison .
The new science of safe raw milk production does not support the need for warning labels. It is prejudice to require that one agricultural product should have this label and others do not. This is 2019, not 2006.
You didn’t keep your end of the deal with answering my question.
On another note, haven’t you wondered why Cat berge left RAWMI? I’d be asking that question.
Mary, I only have so much time during a workday to attend to non-work-related business. So the reply to your question had to wait until the evening.
The answer: I do not support the legalization of raw milk without appropriate food safety standards which include HACCP-based on-farm food safety (OFFS) systems. And ideally I’d want to see all six elements which I listed above.
Hence, no, I would not support any bill such as what TN passed in 2009 to legalize herdsharing without regulation.
First I want to apologize for calling you Vera, if you are not Vera. I’m on my computer now and can see the 3 initials posted. On my phone, I can only see the V.
Thank you for your answer and for understanding why it is a bad idea to have state bills that pass access for unregulated raw milk.
As for requiring a warning label on raw milk, no other food source has an entire organization encouraging parents to feed their children a high risk food that will heal them from all illnesses. Parents need to know the other side of the story when choosing raw milk for their children to drink.
no other organization centred-around a foodstuff, has anywhere near the testimonials as to healing, as does the Campaign for REAL MILK.
You cannot argue with success. Millions – underscore MILLIONS – of people who were in gastric distress with Crohnes disease /irritable bowel syndrome etcetera, are very grateful to have found raw milk.
as for adverse effects : compare REAL MILK to the hard evidence about the vaccine industry. Do children who were poked with a combination 47 diseases, give informed consent?
the article today from Edwin Shank @ the Family Cow, is an excellent explanation of how the good bacteria in human intestines ‘out-compete’ the bad, when they’re sustained properly. Especially … with fresh pure whole raw milk from grass-fed cows
Dear All
I am in Utah meeting with pathogen detection technology experts.
Yes…. I believe raw milk producers should receive RAWMI type training. I have been in contact with Mr Briggs and his bill has had some evolutions since our contact. He went from banning rae milk to requiring some training. That is excellent progress.
Tennessee is an interesting place. When I approached the cow share people in Tennessee, there was massive pushback and a declaration of Freedom above all else. It was not a good start.
RAWMI believes in freedom but freedom comes with a very high level of responsibility. Training must be provided to farmers and only the serous producers should be producing raw milk for people.
No one has the freedom to cause illness in another person. The benefits of raw milk are huge and well documented. It is not going away.
I support the new approach to Briggs new bill. There should be training. How this is done is another matter. I don’t know what Tennessee is going to do. RAWMI stands ready and willing to help.
I have never gotten along very well with the 100% freedom people. I get along just fine with the 50% Freedom and 100% training and responsibility people.
I was once on a call with one of the cow share people in Tennessee. All she could say was how much she loved her guns and her freedom, and don’t mess with Tennessee raw milk. “We will run you off”.
That’s really not appropriate and shows where their minds are. Perhaps not everyone shares that mindset.
We are talking about families and health here. We are also talking about saving family farms.
This is not something to be cavalier about this is serious serious.
I am glad to see Mr Briggs taking a constructive approach to this matter.
Mark,
There is no question that freedom comes with a level of responsibility, this however begs the question, based on whose opinion of what is in fact considered responsible or irresponsible? Bill Marler, that “cesspool of corruption” known as the Center for Disease Control, or all the other germ fearing fanatics that want absolute control over our lives and the foods that we consume!!!?
As Gordon correctly pointed out, to Mary, where is the informed consent when it comes to vaccination? In truth, when, it comes to preserving the church of modern medicine’s lucrative ritual known as vaccination, vaccine safety has literally and purposely been manipulated, suppressed and thrown out the door. Where is the responsibility there?
With respect to the safety of raw milk and all other foods, “real and lasting safety” can only be achieved if we stop this unnatural adulteration of our external and internal microbial environments. As I have said in the past, “ongoing attempts to exclude perceived harmful microbes from our lives is little more then a Band-Aid approach to safety that in turn caters to the current germ fearing predicament we find ourselves in today”. Such an approach although not totally without merit may prove to be of benefit in the short term, it does not however represent a viable and sustainable solution for overall and long term health.
As you correctly stated, “No one has the freedom to cause illness in another person”… and no more is this evident when it comes to vaccinations and adulterated foods such as pasteurized milk. Ultimately, if push comes to shove and considering the ambiguity surrounding these two issues the only viable option is to allow people unrestrained freedom of choice.
I share your focus on “families, health and saving family farms… That being said, we differ more or less on how to achieve that objective.
So you and VHM are in agreement that unregulated raw milk is not a good idea. I hope everyone keeps this in mind if I testify again at the state level attempting to defeat a raw milk bill that is a free for all without government regulation.
So Mark and VHM, what are your thoughts regarding states who have or are attempting to get raw milk sold as pet food….wink, wink? Isn’t this just as dangerous as a bill passed without regulations?
Mary, Am I mistaken in thinking that you will not be satisfied until you see regulations implemented that exert absolute control over raw milk???
If people want to buy spinach and lettuce as pet food and then consume it, then that should be their choice …
If people want to buy raw beef, raw chicken and raw fish as pet food and then consume it raw or cooked, then that should be their choice…
If people want to buy raw milk as pet food and then consume it raw or pasteurized, then that should be their choice…