This doesn’t feel like a great time to be taking pot shots at the mainstream media. On nearly a daily basis, our president is rallying hatred as he accuses CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and other outlets of publishing “fake news,” a catch-all for something he doesn’t like, or would just as soon not be made public.
But then, the unprecedented official vitriol thrown at the media has been going on for nearly three years now. In other words, there’s not going to be a “good” time for me to go after the media.
So I’ll get my objection on the table. I’ve seen one too many hysterical reports about measles outbreaks and dumping on parents who won’t allow their children to have the MMR vaccine (and others). I’ve shied away from taking a stand on vaccination either pro or con because I don’t feel I have enough knowledge about the intricacies of research and outcomes. I personally know physicians, whom I consider honest and decent people, who have absolutely no doubt in their minds that the vaccinations they provide on a daily basis are necessary and beneficial to society.
I also know personally parents of children with developmental problems who are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that their children were damaged by vaccines. And I know parents who have are so convinced of the dangers they refuse to have their children vaccinated.
I’ve watched with amazement as national news programs throw newscaster physicians onto the evening news to dump on anti-vaxers in the conflict over MMR vaccination for measles.
All this by way of prelude to dumping on a particularly obnoxious report in the Sept. 2 issue of The New Yorker. The 7,500-word article, “The Message of Measles,” is mostly a profile of New York state’s health commissioner, and his campaign to stymie an increase in measles outbreaks in the state via universal use of the MMR vaccine. The New Yorker has a history of impressive journalism, including investigative journalism. It revealed in 1972 the My Lai massacre in Vietnam. Just in recent days it broke the news about the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s efforts to hide contributions from sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. And lots in between.
But on vaccination it is like a lot of mainstream media publications—it is obsessive in its condemnation of parents who refuse to vaccinate their children. At one point in the September 2 article, it quotes the story’s hero, state health commissioner Howard. Zucker: “ ‘It’s shocking how strong the anti-vac movement is,’ Zucker said. ‘What surprises me is the really educated people who are passionately against vaccinations. I see this as part of a larger war against science-based reality. We need to study vaccine hesitancy as a disease.’ “
That assessment, and others like it, aren’t presented as one view, but rather the only view. From a New Yorker business point of view, I’d say it’s never a good idea to accuse customers or potential customers who disagree with you as being victims of “a disease.”
And that’s just a little of the article. Amazingly, the report goes on to gloss over a more serious medical crisis than people opting out of the MMR vaccine, in describing how Zucker early in the summer inspected overnight camps in New York state to make sure campers were vaccinated. “Zucker asked (a camp director) what his greatest challenges were. (The director) and the camp pediatrician gave each other a knowing look, and (the director) said, ‘The volume of prescribed medication.’ He painted a familiar picture of a teen and preteen pharmacopoeia. ‘It’s mind-boggling and sad for us.’ “ Maybe sad for the camp officials, but not for the state. All the state cares about is enforcing vaccination, getting rid of the religious exemption, and all The New Yorker seems to care about is promoting that agenda.
This report reminds me of all the times I was interviewed over the last decade by reporters writing newspaper and magazine articles about raw milk. The reporters often sounded sincere and interested in a balanced report. In the end, the reports were always attacks on raw milk and on the parents who fed it to their children.
The New Yorker report also provides fodder for a book I helped write over the spring and summer with a dozen or so of my late-1960s classmates at Columbia Journalism School, which examines changes in journalism over the last 50 years. Several chapters of the book argue that it was the media’s inattention, or even hostility, to women, minorities, small businesses, and other important constituencies that precipitated its decline. Together, of course, with competition from the Internet. I’ll have more news about the book when it gets closer to publication early next year.
As I said, I don’t have a strong view about the pros and cons of vaccination. But I respect those who are worried enough that they don’t want to have their children vaccinated. The only convincing argument I’ve heard against this refusal it is that some children and adults with immune issues (like from taking cancer drugs) could be placed at risk for getting measles as more people get it. Enforced vaccination seems a large price to pay in lost personal liberty to protect a very small number of people with immune issues. I’d be interested to hear constructive discussion about how people with immune issues might co-exist with the rest of the population, which could be sick with any number of illnesses. Perhaps have isolation areas in schools and other public places where those with immune issues hang out?
Zucker is right about one thing: there is a growing amount of conflict over science. My previous post about climate scientists being pressured on their research results concerning climate change is another aspect of the same problem. As soon as you demonize those who interpret the science differently from you, it just leads to more divisions, which are very slow to heal.
Children that get measles such as my self gain a lifetime of immunity with no adverse effects from drugs and chemicals. Why isnt this promoted as a way for children to obtain a natural immunity to these illnesses. Is it because it eats into pharmaceutical profits.
Because people like me get measles and are so sick with them they develop profound hearing lose. Or as my Aunt did, ellipse.
You’d have to be the one in 1 million unlike the reactions to the MMR.
Susie Q: You are certainly correct. For a small number of people, permanent damage follows a natural measles infection. There has never been a cost/benefit analysis of MMR vs. natural measles infection, and there never will be, but a critical look at the MMR clinical trial data (which Del Bigtree has uncovered) would give anyone pause. Had I known then what I know now, I would have declined all vaccines for my offspring. Hard to think of a more pseudo-scientific idea than that any medical procedure is good for everyone, or even for a majority. No clinical trial has ever shown efficacy and safety for the entire population for any treatment. There are always a percentage who are harmed, and this is true of every medical intervention ever devised. But in California now, there will be no exceptions. No physician will be willing to write a medical exemption, even though the Harvard Pilgrim study the CDC commissioned showed that about 2.6% of children were contra-indicated for vaccination, and should receive a medical exemption. Doctors mostly do good, but they will no longer be allowed to. This is not Medicine. It is a business model. It is a means of control. A totalitarian regime is in charge in The Golden State. Brought to us by Democrats, but it might just as well have been Republicans, They can’t be trusted either.
Our legislature sold us out to big Pharma in CA. It’s the Republicans and Democrats that sold us into pharmaceutical slavery. Why aren’t the children who have bad reactions to vaccines as important as the children who have bad reactions to measles? My daughter’s 12 year old stepson is autistic and it is difficult for the whole family to live with this pharmaceutic inflicted disease.
Cindy: On a national level both parties are certainly culpable for the holocaust of vaccine injury, but in California it is the Democrats, and the Democrats alone who sold our children to pharma. We’re all on the same team, so we should recognize allies wherever we find them, so now I vote only Republican in statewide elections. The truth is, our federal government has become an organized criminal enterprise. Obama was just as bad as Dubya, and Clinton before him. I’m reading Edward Snowden’s book, “Permanent Record,” and it’s hard not to conclude that we’re totally screwed.
Big Pharma is bankrolling this campaign, and unfortunately their success has been phenominal.
I have commented in NYT a few times on what I thought about vaccinations for measles and chicken pox and even mumps. And the replies were not hostile but that I needed to be educated. Ok here it is. I never remember my parents freaking out when my brothers and I got any of the above diseases. Or any parent for that matter. It was just routine. And no one in my community died or was left debilitated. And the above commenter made a great point, once you get measles you are protected for life. With vaccinations, they are now saying they are only good for 10 years at the most, and for some diseases only a year or two. So that means their are grown ups who were vaccinated as children who can now get measles. Why aren’t health officials going after the grown ups who many no longer be safe? Also and I read a similar comment in NYT, that some parents who had a child with measles would deliberately expose the other kids in the family to the measly one to get it over with at the same time. I do think we have to remember that Big Pharma is putting out at least some propaganda here. And there are homeopaths who claim there is a healthier way to have immunity to diseases. And I side with the parents of autistic children more than Big Pharma. I know that when I got my polio shot it could have been laced with a cancer causing element. Read Mary’s Monkey. Also with Mumps and Chicken pox, life time immunity and never knew anyone with problems afterwards. But I grew up in a small community.
I have to allow shots here in Oklahoma or my child can’t attend public School. It’s big bully arm twisting really.
I am very worried for smaller children getting these shots. It’s not the weakened viral agent that worries me, but the unlisted preservatives pharma companies have to use to give their products shelf life. Certainly formaldehyde is one, and Mercury ( thimerosal) was another, although they denied it, then claimed it was no longer used. Hmmmmm. These are toxins bypassing the body’s filters by being injected directly into the the young childs blood system.
A rarely known fact about how information is supressed is how the pharma industry limits it’s exposure to being sued. it has got Washington to pass a law which states that the most an individual can get awarded for damages resulting from shots is $100,000. So most parents don’t try to sue the industry, and so the issue is hidden.
Finally whatever we are told, there is so much first hand evidence of the dangers of these shots, here’s one personal testament on video. There are hundreds more:
I am an OP customer & a Trump supporter. If Mark was a Trump supporter, his business would be boycotted by the progressive CA lefties until it financially failed. I believe Grab Your Wallet was the Trump boycott idea by a CA woman.
I support OP because the owner has worked hard for raw milk farmers & supplies good products. There is a new local farm (Alexander) with A2A2 milk but as a Trump supporter, i have class & loyalty & continue to support quality wirhout Mark’s political garbage going TDS on me.
Dana Schultz: At what local retail outlets are the Alexander products available? A bit of competition is always good for customers.
Jimbo’s stores in San Diego area carries Alexandre & raw OP dairy. Alexandre is not raw. It is low heated & non-homogenized. Sometimes I use their cream in cold-brew when serving guests, but OP is our dairy since we are raw.
Our WI farmer was Vernon Herschberger & OP’s Mark is the best friend to raw milk supporters.
I do not know if including a link to Alexandre is appropriate in my comment on this blog. The farm’s website has access to stores locations in CA.
David: Read RFK, Jr.’s response to Nick Pumgarten’s load of propaganda (which the New Yorker refused to publish). While you’re at it read his Children’s Health defense website; full of the actual science of vaccination. I cancelled the New Yorker three years ago, after twenty-five years of reading pleasure, for the pseudo-science in their articles, and for the constant shilling for Hillary. Trump has a colorful way of expressing it, but it is clear to a discerning eye that the MSM is a propaganda operation, not just in peddling fear of measles, but in shaping the narrative of any story of any significance, by blasting it or burying it, and it has always been so: the era of Yellow Journalism never ended; it just became more subtle . The pharmaceutical industry is far more powerful than any other in shaping public policy, both in the number of lobbyists on Capitol Hill and in the states, and in terms of money spent. Our governor here in California on Monday evening signed the most draconian forced-vaccination law in the nation. The CDC contracted with Harvard Pilgrim Healthcare to determine the actual rate of vaccine injury from physician records among its hospitals and clinics (the CDC uses a passive reporting system, mandated by a law which has no enforcement mechanism). They discovered the CDC’s VAERS system captures <1% of physician-recorded adverse events to vaccination, and that 2.6% of children would qualify for a medical exemption. California currently has a medical exemption rate of 0.7%, because all other exemptions were taken away in 2015 (many of those for whom vaccination was risky used the personal belief exemption until then). The bill Governor Newsom signed put fear into the hearts of all practicing physicians in California. There will be no more medical exemptions in California, with the resulting deaths and injuries covered up. The state has also accessed the medical records of the children with medical exemptions without the consent of parents in order to identify physicians who write them and investigate them, and in violation of multiple federal and state privacy laws. They get away with all of this because we are a one-party state. What they are doing is evil of the worst sort; targeting healthy infants and children, and young parents who may not know anything about risks, and who are never told. It may be just as bad in Republican states, but California is a Democrat state. I was a Democrat for forty years, but today I wouldn't vote for a Democrat for dog catcher. You can wear your rose-colored glasses about the motives and machinations of the media if you wish, but I suggest question everything you read. All the tech companies are now actively censoring factual information about the risks of vaccination on their public platforms, at the request of Adam Schiff. God help us.
Gary Ogden It’s not a Democrat or Republican thing. It’s ignorance on many levels. It’s people getting behind something that they don’t fully understand. Forced vaccination is about taking away the rights and freedoms and liberties of the people. Republicans are doing the same thing in their states. Don’t vote against Democrats just because of this flawed policy. Politicians work with the CDC and big Pharma and the insurance industries to keep it’s monopolies going! Period. Happening all around us! Republicans are just as corrupt and more so!
Denise Tucker: I fully agree with you. The two parties are corrupted by the colossal sums they think they need for election campaigns, but which really have little effect. What really concerns me here in California is that the Democrats vote as a bloc, regardless of the merits of the legislation (this is likely true in most legislative bodies and both parties). In his impromptu speech in front of the governor’s office Bobby Kennedy said they had spoken to every Democrat legislator. Some of them, he said, understood very well that the parents have legitimate concerns, and that SB 276 is a bad bill. Nevertheless, every Democrat, with one exception, voted for it. He said they vote with the “tribe.” Sickening. So when I vote, I pay no attention to the candidate’s party. The first criterion I examine is character. This is why I voted for Bernie in the primaries, even though I oppose the majority of his positions. I intend to vote for Tulsi Gabbard in next June’s primary, even though she likely knows little about the vaccine issue. She is the only one telling the truth. The second criterion I consider is policy issues, but truth be told, it really matters little who we elect. Another big concern are the number of people who vote party without much thought about policy. The sheep. Josh Coleman made a short video about this phenomenon. This is the only reason Pan won re-election and was able to mandate Mengele-style medical treatment protocols for California’s entire population of children; he had a credible challenger. What we need in the U.S.A. is a yellow vest movement (without the hooligans, of course). People in the streets saying hell no, we won’t let you poison our children any more.
Thank you for your unbiased look at a troubling issue. I wrote my own response to Nick Paumgarten, author of the New Yorker article, as an open letter. I posted a link to it as a reply on The New Yorker’s Facebook post of the article.
I have not seen any response from either Mr. Paumgarten or anyone from the New Yorker.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/an-open-letter-to-nick-paumgarten-author-of-the-message-of-measles/
David,
If justified, any time is a good time to be taking pot shots at the mainstream media… The position taken by the “mainstream” media that the “science is settled” in regards to vaccination or raw milk, was their first big mistake.
When I realized over 35 years ago (before I had a computer and the internet) the process being used to manufacture vaccines and the ingredients that comprised their makeup, in essence is what turned me away from vaccines… indeed, and despite my waning questionable faith (due to personal experience ) on their effectiveness. Who in their right mind I concluded could think that it was perfectly ok to inject highly invasive and toxic chemical and biological substances; indeed, recognized chemical and viral carcinogens into an individual or an infant child no less?
The following retired physician from New Zealand whose child was severely brain damaged by a vaccine gives an excellent synopsis as to why the vaccine paradigm is fundamentally flawed and and is falling out of grace with believers.
With respect to your concern for individuals with immune issues, such a narrative relies on and is based on the concept of herd immunity, a concept that was proposed during the pre vaccination era by A. W. Hedrich. The term “herd immunity” is not applicable to vaccinations where the recipients of vaccines only acquires a quasi short-term immunity at best… In fact, vaccine recipients pose an equal if not greater threat if they receive a live virus vaccine. It recommended that individuals vaccinated with such vaccines (chicken pox, measles and certain types of influenza) should attempt to avoid close contact with immunocomprimised individuals…
As Ted Kuntz of Vaccine Choice Canada, the father of a severely vaccine disabled child notes in the following article, “The argument made for denying a public education to children who are selectively vaccinated or unvaccinated is the risk they pose to the immune-compromised who can’t be vaccinated. It’s a heart-warming story motivated out of compassion for those children who are medically fragile. Or is it?”
https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/exemptions/the-real-reason-for-vaccine-mandates/
He goes on to ask the following pertinent questions,
Are immune-compromised children who can’t be vaccinated allowed to attend school and daycare?
Is the 10% of the population who are non-responders to vaccination allowed to attend schools and daycares?
Is the significant percent of the population whose antibody levels have waned allowed to attend school and daycare?
Is any titre testing being conducted to determine who has adequate antibody levels and therefore safe to attend school and daycare?
And, if disease transmission is really what the proponents of vaccine mandates are worried about, then shouldn’t those children recently vaccinated with live-virus vaccines also be excluded from schools and public spaces until the viral shedding has ceased?
Link to New Zealand physician,
Ken Conrad: Thank you for that link. She knows. She understands.
Dr Pan in California is a highly “useful idiot”. He promotes all sorts of medical agendas in the legislature and gets away with it cause he is a doctor.
In my assessment, this is all about a couple of things: Pharma money !!, lack of knowledge or interest in understanding the human genome and biome.
The truth lies someplace out there and it’s probably closer to the moms than the pharma.
We have seen great immune system development success with kids on a whole food diet drinking plenty of raw milk. Then…. when they do get vaccinated it’s when they are older and spread out over time …. after their immune systems are stronger and can take the insult.
It’s a weird time we are living in. The deep corruption between the pharmaceutical industry and the FDA is beyond belief.
With the other useful idiot in the Whitehouse this won’t change until he is out. He is too stupid to read or become educated.
Charmcat and Gary O good points, similar to my personal experience and beliefs.
Ken, is there a scientific way to measure when “the viral shedding has ceased?”
There you go again Mark, teeing off on our elected officials. This is a Raw Milk blog, can you please take your “Dump on Trump” campaign somewhere else? Thank you. You may not be aware that you are very likely alienating many of your customers every time this diatribe gets regurgitated.
Ora Moose: He does not alienate me. I appreciate the wholesome food he produces and I eat every day, and when he talks about politics, I ignore it. Political partisanship is just the stance the globalists wish us to take, and Mark doesn’t yet realize that the enemy is not one political party or politician, but the banksters and deep state (which is basically the permanent government, the bureaucracy, which is vast, unelected, unaccountable, and largely runs things). Partisan politics is the end of citizenship, the end of participation in this grand experiment. When I talk to people in real life, I don’t see the sort of yammering and bickering we see among the political class and talking heads on TV. What I mostly see are thoughtful, knowledgeable people who have real concerns, most of which haven’t been addressed by Trump, nor were they addressed by Obama, Dubya, Clinton, Daddy Bush, and so forth. Downhill for the American worker and post-war middle class began about the time of the Nixon administration. It really accelerated from Clinton to Obama. When I say banksters, I am referring to the central banks (of the world). They are the greatest enemies of the people. From the end of Dubya through most of Obama, they printed $21 trillion of money and gave it to the banks in their respective countries. The Fed, which is our central bank (a private institution which nevertheless controls our money supply) was responsible for $3 trillion of this. They gave the money, with no strings attached, only to the too-big-to-jail banks, not to a single small bank, who then loaned it at almost zero interest to corporations, who didn’t use a penny of it for capital development or job creation. What did they do? They bought back huge amounts of their own stock, thus inflating the stock market and their own valuation. House of cards, you say? Correct. We now have both a huge bubble in corporate valuation based upon nothing but thin air, along with a crushing debt burden, among the public, among public pension systems, and with Uncle Sam himself. Good book about all this is Nomi Prins’ “Collu$ion.” So give Mark a break. Like many, his understanding of the way Washington, D.C. works is being manipulated, primarily by the media. When you look behind the curtain, you see a festering swamp, which neither Trump nor any other president can or will drain. Nor will it be exposed, as the intelligence agencies and the DOJ are the most powerful enforcers of this regime, the media their lapdogs. The last president who tried to shake things up was JFK, and these powerful people (mainly Allen Dulles and James Jesus Angleton) took care of that threat. Don’t believe me? Read David Talbot’s “The Devil’s Chessboard.” Think WTC 7 was brought down by a few office fires? Read the University of Alaska engineering department’s new paper. A global failure simultaneously by all the columns in the building. This could only have come from pre-placed explosives. On the 18th anniversary of that horrific tragedy, it is only fitting to realize we’ve been snookered again. Lied to at enormous cost. The military-industrial complex is not only bankrupting the nation but destroying our military readiness as well, yet the greatest danger to our nation comes from the pharmaceutical industry, which owns Congress, the federal public-health Goliath, and all the state public health departments. This is where our anger should be directed. Not at Trump (who is doing no more than any of his predecessors to stop the mass poisoning of our children).
Addendum: Here is the link to the University of Alaska Fairbanks paper concerning WTC 7:
ine.uaf.edu/media/222439/uaf_wtc7_draft_report_09-03-2019.pdf
Gary, your link did not work but try this:
https://mustreadalaska.com/breaking-uaf-study-says-government-wrong-world-trade-center-collapse/
Ora Moose: Thanks for the link. The link I posted worked for me, but did not show as a clickable link in my posted comment.
Gary O, you make too much sense and I agree with just about everything you said. Yet most people buy into all the MSM propaganda and take it as gospel: sheep. Honest politicians can never make it very far as they will get undermined and attacked (or murdered) so most don’t even try because they want to stay alive and in office. Thermate isn’t a naturally occurring byproduct of office fires. BTW I was employed by the Pharma/biotech industry for more than 12 years and know first hand what a cushy, well paying job is and will continue to be. How we change that, I have no clue. I also worked for a company that manufactured plastic explosive detection systems and installed them at airports throughout the world, so again I have first hand experience. Not bragging, just saying…
Ora Moose: Yes, I worked in heavy construction and handled and used explosives with regularity. This is why I’m certain that the official explanation for the damage to the building from the Oklahoma City bombing is a lie, not a complete lie, but that level of structural damage could not have been caused by an NCN bomb placed outside the building. Impossible. Shrapnel does not cause structural failure in a steel frame building unless there are massive amounts of it, well beyond what would fit in dozens of Ryder trucks. But we now know the FBI is not to be trusted. They are both incompetent and corrupt. The official story was their call. Yes, thermite would never be found in an office building, but is certainly used in the demolition of steel-framed buildings. The evidence for its use in the collapses of the three WTC buildings is in the dust collected at various places in Lower Manhattan. This is real science, and this is the smoking gun. Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth has amassed a wealth of evidence. It is long past time for a real investigation of who planted the thermite. Suck the slime right out of D.C., and put it on trial. Could bring down the government.
Ora Moose: I must add that I may understand Mark a bit better than many, as our roots are from the same neck of the woods. We Scotsmen have a tendency toward obstinateness. I’ve battled it mightily, as my spouse, though not Scottish, is of the same cast of mind, and I prefer to stay married. Beats the alternative.
The following Vaccine Choice Canada article entitled “If Reporters Were Honest” is relevant and worth reading…
https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/in-the-news/if-reporters-were-honest/
The article states in part, “In the black and white world of the mainstream media, there is no controversy here. Vaccines are “safe and effective”. Everyone should get them. Vaccinated children have immunity. Unvaccinated children spread diseases.
‘In the real world, more and more parents don’t believe these claims. They are increasingly skeptical about vaccine safety. In fact, studies have shown that the better educated parents are, the less likely they are to participate in the recommended vaccine schedule.
‘Reporters can’t understand this. The networks and newspapers have given us years of coverage featuring experts all vouching for the safety of vaccines. “The science is settled”, we are told. No further research or discussion is needed.
‘Of course, this isn’t authentic science or journalism. Real science is never settled. Real science asks real questions and demands real answers. Real science asks – Is what we are doing working? Real journalism involves uncovering the truth. If reporters were honest, they’d do more than regurgitate talking points from vaccine promotors. They would truly investigate why more and more parents and scientists are questioning the claims of vaccine safety and effectiveness.
‘This isn’t about the science. This isn’t about honest journalism. It never has been. It’s about marketing a product for the medical industry. It’s about selling an ideology, regardless of the merits of this ideology. It’s about making our children (and soon adults) a captive-market for the pharmaceutical industry.”
The elephant in the room for me is, who pays for all these vaccines since they are quote unquote “free” to anyone who’s willing to play disease roulette. And you KNOW the pharma companies are scoring big profits from them. So, are taxpayers subsidizing something that is being forced on them? Something is wrong with this picture…
That video is tragic. That’s why I said that Dr Pan is a useful idiot for Pharma.
Someday this tragedy will have its day. Until then fight like hell to expose corruption and build immunity in your kids. Delay vaccinations as much as possible and spread them out.
Mark.
Do you really believe it’s wise to “spread out” the injection of concoctions containing Mercury, aluminum, aborted fetal cells, polysorbate 80, sodium chloride, monobasic sodium phosphate, dibasic sodium phosphate, monobasic potassium phosphate, potassium chloride, calcium chloride, sodium taurodeoxycholate, ovalbumin, sucrose, neomycin, polymyxin B, beta-propiolactone, squalene, polysorbate 20, sorbitan trioleate, sodium citrate, citric acid monohydrate, kanamycin, barium, egg proteins, CTAB (cetyltrimethylammonium bromide), and formaldehyde, MF59C, α-tocopheryl hydrogen succinate, hydrocortisone, gentamicin sulfate, sodium deoxycholate, baculovirus and Spodoptera frugiperda cell proteins, baculovirus and cellular DNA, Madin Darby Canine Kidney (MDCK) cell protein, protein other than HA, MDCK cell DNA, cetyltrimethlyammonium bromide, and, nonylphenol ethoxylate, egg protein, octylphenol ethoxylate (Triton X-100), monosodium glutamate, hydrolyzed porcine gelatin, sucrose, and ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA)?
Not listed are the GRAS (generally regarded as safe) lipid based excipients such as peanut oil and dairy derivatives such as, lactose, bovine casein and lactalbumins. And most insidious of all, there are the not listed incidental ingredients such as the various animal retroviruses, mycoplasma, nanobacteria, bacterial source endotoxins etc. etc. etc…
Ken,
In states that have mandatory vaccines that may be the only option available, to spread them out or move( the option I would choose.)
Ora Moose: Yes, the taxpayers pay for the vaccines, and, for those who manage to file a claim in vaccine court and prevail (although most doctors, and very few among the public even know it actually exists), also for the damages. For the vast majority of vaccine injuried, it is the parents who foot the bill for their care. This is the main reason the pharma/politician/media cartel is pulling out all the stops to destroy any discussion of the dark side of vaccination. They really have a guaranteed gravy train, and they love money. To hell with the children.
Alison: Thanks for the good work you do. Sad that the New Yorker has become part of the propaganda operation. I was a long-time reader. They will not respond in any way to your letter, or anything factual which questions the pharmaceutical industry/government mantra. The U.S. is run by greedy thugs, and the media are all sheep. The public, thankfully, is waking up.
No where nearly enough people waking up Gary, doctors are Gods in many people’s minds these days, won’t question a thing..
John Dutcher: True, we are a nation of sheep, yet I think we are not too far from a tipping point. Trust in government and media are at an all-time low. But I think the only way to stop this juggernaut is civil disobedience. We brought the Viet Nam debacle to a halt, and we can stop this mass poisoning. The big difference is that we now live in a mass-surveillence state and the overall enforcer of law, the DOJ, is thoroughly politicized and corrupt.
I don’t agree with the aggressive methods used by some of the protesters at the California State Capital, yet the spaciousness and arrogance of some the senators is mind-boggling…
https://beta.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/09/14/californias-governor-signed-pro-vaccine-bill-into-law-this-week-then-protests-got-weird/
“Steve Glazer (D-7th Dist.) wrote on Twitter that the Senate floor “remains a crime scene.” He tweeted a photo of himself at a doctor’s appointment Saturday as a safety precaution because he was potentially exposed to blood.”
He is worried about a small amount of menstrual blood that he may have been exposed to, yet has little concern for the degenerative cancer causing immune disrupting toxins and invasive animal antigens injected into the bodies of infants??!!
Democrat Sen. Scott Wiener (D-11th Dist.) was quoted in the same article saying, “These anti-vaxxers are engaging in criminal behavior,” he wrote. “They’ve now repeatedly assaulted Senators & are engaging in harassing & intimidating behavior every single day, as we try to do the people’s work. They’re a cancer on the body politic & are attacking democracy.” Scott Wiener is the personification of a hypocrite… The people’s work he says??? What democratic process??? Who indeed is guiltier of harassment and intimidation??? And who indeed is the cancer on the democratic process!!!
The Senate floor in California is indeed a crime scene and the criminals are the politicians…
https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70886802_10218422077116406_3455257209166888960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQkoN5uYw9ZB7zSqJggndxA8SpH9Ncfvq3zvs1wPaiv27uGcozC8xT36juwDqfuNEag&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=e4f7f44245f363208eb6f0d77bbcd33f&oe=5E069BC0
My nephew’s picture is there. He is severely autistic. My SIL was there multiple times fighting against the bill.
Mary McGonigle-Martin: Thank your SIL from all of us for her presence. I was at the fight against SB 277 four years ago, but was unable to participate this time. I was shocked at how woefully ignorant and diabolically evil is our state legislature. Pan stood there with a snicker on his face while we all testified after at least four hours of standing in a line that completely clogged the 3rd floor, as if to say, “You folks are wasting your breath; the fix is in.”
what happened in the Legislature in California was a good example of how the media focus on a ‘false flag’ stunt for dis-gracing a genuine political movement. Beyond doubt, provocateurs in the forefront.
The totalitarians in the high places of govt. now presume complete control of the citizen’s body … how do you like communism, so far?.
One more very good reason why white Christians are fleeing California
the lie is halfway ’round the world before the Truth gets its boots on
see Mike Adams’ assessment of the non-sense that went on in California
worth reading for the expose of what really went on, with the “outbreak of mumps at Disneyland”
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-09-16-vaccine-industry-now-running-provocateur-false-flag-ops-with-fake-blood.html
This is not a surprise. There is no limit to how low and how dirty pharma will sink to protect its gravy train. $50 billion vaccine payday and $500 billion payday for the drugs to treat all the chronic conditions created by them. We are in a battle of the ages for the soul and health of the human species. My guess is that this woman will conveniently disappear and will be forgotten, as she has served their purpose. Wonder what was in the fruit cup. Tomato juice? V8?
The proper word is speciousnesses as in hypocritical, not spaciousness…
Ken Conrad: I couldn’t agree with you more. All the legislators who voted for SB 276 are criminals, and the governor as well. The California legislature has long been the scene of criminal activity. Remember Willie Brown?
Leigh Dundas Press Conference on investigating SB276
If I was in a state with mandatory vaccination, I would just homeschool my kids. Lots of great curriculum out there online, and lots of coops, and help to be successful. I did homeschool my son for 6 yrs., & he got a much more diverse and varied education, along with the basics, plus a wide social network for both of us. Loved it! Our homeschool community is where I discovered raw milk! Raw goat milk and cow’s milk. We had a wonderful 6 yrs. of laughter, tears, discovery, friendships, adventures we never would’ve taken, etc., etc. He finished out his junior high and high school yrs. at The Austin Waldorf School. Which he loved as much as homeschool. He is now a senior in the Honor’s Department of Texas State University. Colleges don’t make as much of a deal about vaccines…yet. Also, when we are ever asked if we’ve been vaccinated, we just answer yes. And doctors and nurses immediately leave the subject alone. You’re not bothered after answering with a yes. If asked when, I just make up a date. I’ve instructed my son to do the same. And I did this on the rare occasion I had to take him to the doctor as a child. It won’t be hard to produce a fake vaccination card, and people are too busy to check up on them all. Especially when vaccines are offered at countless different locations like clinics, drug stores, grocery stores, etc. Just sayin. To hell with them bastards. No one is forcing this stuff on me or my family. It should always be a choice. It feels very assaultive to many who have been physically or sexually assaulted, to be forced into any sort of medical procedure. This is completely aggregious on the part of our government. I thought our military fought and died for our freedoms? I don’t feel very free. Feels like we’re going backwards or upside down in this country.
I home schooled my kid even though he went to public school also.
My mom was a teacher. I was a teacher too, all levels from kinder garden to specialized professional industrial grade. Weep, I do.
Just ask Bob Kraft
Denise, yours is a lucky kid.
“No one is forcing this stuff on me or my family. It should always be a choice.”
Amen
Denise Tucker: Good for you! Here in California not only are pre-school-12 required to have virtually all the CDC schedule, but both the UC and State University systems require at least a new dose of the MMR. We expect Richard “Mengele” Pan will be going after the home-schoolers next, then the adults. I’m really proud of all you Texas people who have stopped the juggernaut in its tracks. Nobody is going to drive me from the state I love. In fact we need more folks here for the acts of mass civil disobedience which I see in the future. This is the new civil rights movement. This is the only way to stop the criminal “public health” cartel. Nobody I know of feels particularly free. One of the purposes of the 9/11 attacks was to pave the way for the mass surveillance state and control mechanisms we enjoy today. Here is some reading matter about that day:
The Franklin Square and Munson Fire District (near Queens) Commissioners, who lost one of their own on that infamous day, have unanimously called for a new investigation into the 9/11 attacks. Press conference here:
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/540-new-york-area-fire-commissioners-make-history-c
The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Geoffrey Berman has empaneled a Grand Jury to look at the (voluminous) evidence presented to them by a group of surviving families and the Lawyers Committee for 9/11 Inquiry. See:
https://www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/26-nov-2018-press-release-response-fr
and
https://www.theothersideofmidnight.com/2018-12-01_911/
University of Alaska Fairbanks paper here:
https://mustreadalaska.com/breaking-uaf-study-says-government-wrong-world-trade-center-collapse
More evidence here:
architectsandengineersfor911truth.org
Our government has lied about everything else; why would it have told the truth about this? You will never read or hear any of this factual information in the mainstream media, any more than you will read or hear any anything factual about vaccines; they have largely become a propaganda operation. This information rightly will make some people deeply uncomfortable because of its horrifying implications and from the painful memories of that day, but to heal as a nation, the truth must come out, just as the truth of the vaccine holocaust must come out. Who was the key figure in the whitewash of the 9/11 Committee report. None other than Russiagate hoax spokesman Robert Mueller, head of the FBI at the time. It is crystal clear that the three buildings were brought down by pre-planted explosives (this is what the University of Alaska Fairbanks paper explains). No other explanation is remotely plausible. The video of the plane going through the side of the second tower shows something which is impossible, and none other than Donald Trump said so on that day. The towers were designed to be impenetrable to commercial aircraft. Massive steel columns all around the exterior, one between each set of windows would have stopped any penetration by something as flimsy as the aluminum body of a plane Who carried it off? It had to have been the intelligence agencies of the U.S., and likely at least one other country. I have a good idea who that other country is, but that is not the point. The point is, this crime of the century was never really investigated. We must do so, just as we must peel back the slime from CDC.
Was it necessary to use Trump in your article?!! MSM is biased & dishonest. Did you recently hear Condi Rice put NBC’s Savannah Guthrie in her place?
Ken,
Your ingredient list leaves me pretty much speechless.
Hard to argue against your logic.
This article and accompanying videos needs to be read and watched by all… As Robert F Kennedy Jr. stated, “Do not cry, do not be remorseful, do not be afraid, instead organize”.
https://thehighwire.com/when-discrimination-is-accepted-in-america/?fbclid=IwAR1RRbhbulhSE-r3QBkv7qpncbbu4VSXZWF8qmwTUGK5Zs5U9B6JvJziMKc
“With the recent protests in California, as well as New York and Italy on the same day, a political and social movement appears to be accelerating rapidly. While media and politicians were busy hurling insults, parents and communities organized. While doctors kicked patients out of their practices and refused to see vaccine-injured children, parents let the world know. The media’s tired, one-sided narrative attempting to conceal and erase from history the idea that vaccines are anything but benevolent is now transparent… As legislation chips away at the many barriers insulating families from the products of Big Pharma with known harms, many have taken to social media to organize and tell their stories. Yet starting at the beginning of 2019 Big Tech giants, at the primary behest of Democratic representatives, implemented classic social engineering and censorship programs with modern, algorithmic and machine learning techniques to stop parents from communicating online. Corporate media has cheered the anti-American moves at every turn.” – Jefferey Jaxen
indeed … “corporate media has cheered the anti-American moves at every turn”.
But that’s nothing new. Over half a century ago, Eustace Mullins published “Poisoned Needle” in which he spelled-out what the vaccine racket is all about, who propagates, and = especially = why. Much too “strong meat” though for boobus Americanus. From then on, he was vilified as a “white supremicist / Neo-Nazi / KKK / and all the other knee-jerk epithets parroted by the enemies of freedom … against Truth tellers.
some “conspiracy theories” have an awful lot of hard evidence, substantiating them.
herewith the URL link to an excellent ! little 7 minute video of Paul Noble explaining the basics of the Campaign for REAL MILK … right back to healing the land from the poisons dumped on it
love those Guernseycows
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/WhctKJVZnTRTvMKxdlTJGZjMwDLfKsnpCKfxdgbLwZDQqsCbfkCGZvDZDrzJDpSWFtrVhlq?projector=1
nope. My mistake. That URL – above – does not work
rather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miPj0xeeaus
for the video of Paul Noble summing up what raw milk is all about
Adults are next in CA
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SR58
This current campaign by, who else, Calif. Senator Pan, for adult vaccination awareness, will no doubt herald a similar campaign across the US. And then it will lead to efforts to ultimately ban unvaccinated adults from traveling on planes and buses and prohibited entrance into hospitals and health care facilities or denial of entitlement benefits or denial of employment. A lot of people like myself weren’t impacted by childhood vaccination mandates, but soon they’ll want to reach out and grab all of us. Scary times ahead. I hope there will be enough people left with rational faculties to effectively organize and resist.
Mandatory vaccination of adults is my worst nightmare! I was so glad to have freely raised my son, opting out of vaccines for him once he developed a seizure disorder following the MMR. We spent over $25,000 on therapy for him over 2 1/2 yr. period. The doctors agreed it was more than likely the vaccine, however, they refused to report as such saying it was inconclusive. Denying people access to healthcare, especially emergency care, is totally egregious & extremely terrifying! This feels completely assaultive & over reaching to the max! I can’t believe how the masses, the sheeple, would be okay with this! Now I see exactly how the holocaust & other genocide happens. This feeds right into that. Terrifying!
Denise Tucker: It is indeed terrifying what the Gates/WHO/Pharma cartel has wet dreams about. Americans, and people in general, may be sheep, yet the adult flu vaccine uptake is not much more than 50%. I doubt it will ever get much higher than that. I wouldn’t be surprised if the future brings mandates for boarding a plane. I suspect this will reduce the number of air travelers. At some point our society will simply collapse under the weight of paying for all the iatrogenic harm to children and adults alike, and our state governments under the weight of educating so many damaged children under IDEA mandates. In truth, our system of government is broken. Congress is fully beholden to the pharma cartel and the military/industrial complex, which are inexorably bankrupting the nation, destroying the health of the public, and destroying military readiness. The only good news I can think of lately is that Likud was defeated in the Israeli elections.
Dana Schultz: Thanks. OP is the only option for pastured and raw where I am. Fine stuff, though very expensive. I no longer drink fluid milk or make kefir, as I did for years, but I couldn’t live without the cream and butter. Sometimes I buy the cheese, but I wish Mark would make cheeses more to my liking, such as aged gouda, brie, camembert or Grana Padano Parmesan. We do have a newish dairy here in central California, which I think has the cows on pasture, but it is pasteurized, though not homogenized. No cream of butter, though.
“Members of Mainers for Health and Parental Rights, the group opposing the vaccine law passed this year by the Democratic-led Legislature, were in Augusta on Wednesday to turn in 78,000 valid signatures — more than the 63,000 signatures required to suspend the law and put the people’s veto challenge on the ballot — to Secretary of State Matt Dunlap’s office.”
https://bangordailynews.com/2019/09/18/politics/opponents-of-maine-vaccine-law-say-their-peoples-veto-effort-will-make-the-ballot/
That’s great news Ken. Not only will the challenge to the loss of Maine vaccine exemptions be put on the March 20, 2020 ballot, assuming sufficient signatures of the veto challenge are validated, but that newly passed Maine law repealing the exemptions will be suspended until the issue is voted on by the people. I didn’t know that enacted legislation could be suspended if enough people signed a petition against it. If the Bangor Daily News is correct in their report, I wonder if that suspension of law could happen anywhere else where enough people signed petitions challenging the issue to a vote of the public.
In my previous comment I referred to IDEA, and many may not know that this refers to the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. The numbers of children who qualify for expensive mandated services under this law are growing rapidly in every state and so are the numbers of special students in the UK and Ireland, so much so that budgets are stretched to the limit. This is what will ultimately bankrupt the states (along with crushing public pension obligations). This is no doubt caused by the mass poisoning of our children with liability-free mandatory vaccines, none of which have ever been properly safety-tested, neither singly nor in combination. Evil has captured our government.
“Well-Beaten Path Towards Genocide”
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/vaccine-extremism-hate-speech-and-well-beaten-path-towards-genocide-1
“Dehumanizing and violent messages — now rampant within social media and mainstream news outlets — targeting those exercising their Constitutionally protected health freedoms, bear concerning resemblance to previous phases of human history marred by genocide.”