The attempted insurrection last January 6 was a traumatic event for many Americans. We have all had the good fortune to live in a country that has known only political stability for many generations. Few of us appreciate that we are in the world’s minority—in much of the world, political repression and instability are the norm. It’s part of the reason the U.S. is such a desirable destination for foreign migrants.
For those Americans whose families settled here within a generation or two, January 6 was especially traumatic, raising the prospect that the U.S. might somehow become something like the country they fled. It has certainly been that way for me. My family fled Germany in the 1930s, barely escaping to the U.S. by the skin of their teeth, while some relatives and friends who didn’t make it out were slaughtered in the Holocaust. Even though we were safe, the trauma of that event has hung heavy over my family—as recently as four years ago, a cousin of mine committed suicide after becoming addicted to drugs, following in the path of her mother, my aunt, who escaped the Holocaust by hiding out in France, and similarly killed herself in the 1980s. For us and many others who bear the scars of authoritarian regimes, January 6 was a trigger for a larger trauma.
All that may explain why I’ve always been morbidly fascinated by political upheaval, coups d’ tat in particular. I studied political science in college, and have studied modern German political history in much detail over the subsequent years to co-author a remembrance of those years by my aunt.
The more research I’ve done most recently, the more amazed I was at the parallels between the January 6, 2021, insurrection at the American capitol and Hitler’s November 9, 1923, “Beer Hall Putsch” in Munich. As just one example, Hitler celebrated November 9 for years afterwards with speeches and important events; I suddenly understood why Kristallnacht, the burning of synagogues and looting of Jewish businesses in Germany, occurred on November 9 (1938). I also understood why one of Trump’s concluding Tweets to his insurrectionist followers last January 6 sounded so hauntingly familiar: “Remember this day forever.” Of course, he wanted to follow in Hitler’s steps and celebrate the glory of his insurrection each January 6. (He had announced his intention to give a speech tomorrow, but then cancelled it yesterday without explanation; he is known to have studied Hitler’s speeches and propaganda techniques during the 1980s.)
So I wrote an article comparing the American insurrection attempt last January 6 with Hitler’s 1923 insurrection attempt and aftermath, for The Nation magazine. The similarities are amazing, except for one important difference, which I explore.
Unfortunately, the trauma of January 6, 2021, didn’t end that day. There will be ongoing political upheaval, possibly for years, just as there was in Germany following November 9, 1923. That’s because there are pols and their supporters who are ready to replace our democratic system with an autocratic system. If they succeed, it won’t be pretty—after it’s lost, democracy is very difficult to get back….just look around the world, at places like Turkey, Egypt, Venezuela, and many others. Perhaps unfortunately, too many Americans seem to have taken for granted sacred rights that could disappear for a long time.
You are hopelessly gone on the Koolaid the Biden Regime has been dishing out for the last year.The real insurrection is the illegitimate Biden regime currently in power destroying our country any way they can from within. In. fact the it is the permanent Washington class of unelected bureaucrats who run this country whether it is Trump, or Biden or Mr. Magoo as president. In fact. the real insurrection comes from within our government vis a vis the corrupt. FBI, CIA, and almost every government agency that exists.
I am not going to convince you. You are totally gone. This is your blog which I do not read anymore. But this appeared in my in box this early am and I want my voice. That is something you do give to me but at the same time I am sure you will do your best to counter anything I say. That’s free speech though. You do seem to still believe in the first amendment to some degree.
Here is another take from Revolver.news on why not a single planner/organizer of the coup has been hauled in.
https://www.revolver.news/2021/12/damning-new-details-massive-web-unindicted-operators-january-6/
And it has to do with the fact that it was in inside job by the FBI itself . “Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web Of Unindicted Operators At The Heart Of January 6”
Ray Epps was a planted agent by the FBI to incite the rioters.
Through Hillsdale College I am taking a free online course right now by Victor David Hansen entitled American Citizenship and it’s Decline. I urge everyone on this blog to take it. and get some facts . Here are the chapters.
The History of Citizenship in the West
The Disappearing Middle Class
Illegal Immigration and the Loss of National Sovereignty
The Rise of Tribal Politics
The Unelected and Unaccountable Deep State
The Erosion of the Constitution
The Global Elite and the Great Reset
Yes there is upheaval and it is from the powers that be right now. We should be afraid and greatly concerned as David says, but from the powers within our government.
David, stop pissing on us and telling us it is raining.
I won’t try to convince you either….you are clearly delusional in your views. I’ll just correct a key part of your conspiracy theory about FBI involvement in the January 6 coup attempt: You say the FBI was involved in staging the insurrection, even though one of Trump’s first acts as prez was to fire its director, James Comey. One of his next acts was to appoint a new FBI director, Christopher Wray, who was running the FBI on Jan. 6, 2021. Yet somehow Trump is controlled by “the deep state”? And Trump has been celebrating Jan. 6 for the last year (“Remember this day forever”), even had a major press event scheduled for today to celebrate further. You must think he’s a complete dweeb to be so completely unaware of what’s going on. I don’t get why you guys can’t just accept responsibility for the fact that Jan. 6 was an attempted coup, carried out on the orders of the president. If it had worked, and your guy was now the dictator president, I’m sure you’d be basking in the glory of your “win.” You need to pay attention to what your fuhrer is saying.
OK. Well, the truth is coming and in the end, the truth will win. BTW, I do not like Trump. I hope there will be a better choice in 2024. This is not about Trump. It is about freedom from tyranny of the idealistic elitist control freaks. Again, I urge you to listen to or read Victor David Hansen’s course at Hillsdale College or his book American Citizenship and it’s Decline.
Illegitimate Biden Regime is just more conspiracy BS, laughable too. You really need some help with distinguishing fact from fallacy. But carry on wayward soldier!!
Hillsdale College says it all to me, might as well be Trump University.
David, we in Europe have been watching the evolution of the once great democracy, USA, with similar fears and thoughts. The power of democracy are sound and educated populations that take care of the whole nation’s well-being. Unfortunately, there are several democracys that are increasinly becoming demo-crazy with an increasingly selfish population and the current misinformation pandemic. Keep standing up for what you beleive in!
? Is Trump a Freemason? Children’s Health Defence 06/18/21 article “Who Owns Big Pharma and Big Media? Very interesting! Specially after reading, “Bloodlines of the Illuminati” by Fritz Spingmeir 1995. Barn Rat2018 your facts line up. David, sorry for what your family went through. People are going through it again here in Canada. Doctors, nurses, police, teachers, etc are loosing their jobs as happened under Hitler.
Afraid that’s a false comparison, Richard. People lost their jobs in the world depression that began in 1929 because of an economic collapse (including in Germany and the U.S.) I’m not sure exactly what you are referring to in Canada, though I presume it has to do with the pandemic and vaccine mandates. No comparison.
Richard,
You state, “People are going through it again here in Canada. Doctors, nurses, police, teachers, etc are loosing their jobs as happened under Hitler.”
Exactly, and those same people “the unvaccinated” were labelled in a recent statement made in French by our bold faced lying Prime Minister Trudeau as “extremists who don’t believe in science”, and he went on to make the absurd statement that “they’re often misogynists, also often racists” … Trudeau is the most divisive leader in the history of Canada, a common trait he shares with President Biden south of the border.
The following statement made by Auschwitz survivor Marian Turski, 94 sums well what is transpiring as a result of these draconian covid restrictions, she states, “And that’s how it is done, step by step, slowly.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1466810938120712200
You don’t have to look as far as Turkey, Egypt or Venezuela …just take a look north of your border at Canada, and if you can spare the time, listen to this discussion between Ezra Levant and Brian Peckford, the last remaining Premier who participated in the repatriation of Canada’s Constitution from the United Kingdom and cosigned the “sacred” Charter of Rights and Freedoms when it was drafted 40 years ago and that is being largely disregarded by unelected bureaucrats and politicians today. What is happening around the world these last couple of years with respect to this so-called pandemic is merely a reflection of a never-ending story of idealistic elitist control freaks who are obsessed with absolute control and achieving that objective via the manipulation of human activity and behavior.
https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_january_05_2022?fbclid=IwAR2rKS_95OGKlXoG7vPyBHnSy7wsNkIXYLXOaX8vILYVP_yUohjOnHymSeA
David, everyone was bothered by what happened last January 6th. Even Trump supporters.
That being said, to label that event an insurrection is laughable, it’s patently absurd. Yeah, a resurrection where no one died (except an unarmed Trump supporter) or even had weapons. Most of the people that entered the capital were walking around taking pictures. No one to my knowledge has been charged with insurrection. It was a riot. And yes the people involved deserve to be punished.
And by the way, if you were ok with leftists burning our cities to the ground for the entire summer of 2020, causing billions of dollars in damages and taking almost 30 lives, shut up about 1/6. You have no moral standing to talk about it. Antifa, BLM, (the DNC brown shirts) took over something like 4 city blocks in Seattle and a police precinct. They attacked a Federal Courthouse in Portland for months, attempting to burn it down with people inside of it. Many other major cities looked like war zones. But that’s ok to leftists like you, while everyone else is sick and tired of the double standard.
Hitler was a leftist, and the tyranny we’re facing in this country now is coming from Brandon and his handlers—leftists.
Jared hit the nail on the head. I couldn’t agree more with his comments.
Jared, I suggest you read Cathy’s comment about the experiences of law enforcement trying to quell the insurrectionists, who came in wearing military protective gear, spraying mace and bear repellent, using heavy poles and other weapons, and built a scaffold to hang elected officials (Presumably VP Pence and Speaker Pelosi).
And one correction: Hitler was a fascist, allied with other fascists in Italy (Mussolini) and Japan against the allies in WWII.
The term Nazi is an abbreviation for The National Socialist Workers Party. Hitler was to the right of communists, but not by much and he was still left of center.
I did read Cathy’s comment, but my comment was to you as a journalist engaged in the gaslighting of his readership. Just stop.
The term “socialist” in National Socialist Workers Party had an entirely different meaning than we understand it today in the U.S. (with government controlling industry). There’s a pretty good article here explaining the confusion, but here is its summary:
“Nazism wasn’t a socialist project. Nazism was a rejection of the basic tenets of socialism entirely, in favor of a state built on race and racial classifications.” Hitler was very tight with the industrialists of his day, the companies that we know as Mercedes Benz, Volkswagen, etc.; as I point out in my Nation article, Hitler built up his SS storm troopers in large measure to go beat up and kill real socialists.
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/18283879/nazism-socialism-hitler-gop-brooks-gohmert
And to say that Democrats are acting like Nazis just shows how little you know about how the Nazis used terror and force against any and all who disagreed with the government line. There’s a huge amount for you to read to learn how the Nazis governed; one place to start would be with the 1960 history classic book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.”
Private property was nominal with prices, wages, output and distribution controlled nearly entirely by the state. Private ownership was essentially in name only.
Hitler was a leftist, but you’re correct in that he did crack down on other leftists as he thought Germany was at risk of being taken over by communists.
Today in America there is one party trying to federalize elections, expand SCOTUS, make Puerto Rico and DC states; obsessed with race, “othering” a group of people, pro censorship, denying medical freedom, and labeling parents as domestic terrorists (as well as anyone that disagrees with Covid measures). The democrats. They’re doing all of that.
What law did Trump pass restricting your freedom? Name one.
David, you are just wasting your time, some of these people don’t even believe factual past history, much less recent history. Anyone that believes fascists are left of center are hopelessly lost in the realms of falsehoods. Anyone that sees the Jan. 6th insurrection as “Laughable” has some serious mental issues David. You CAN fix ugly, but…… Hopefully the truth will come out soon. Trying to reason with some of these folks would be quite similar ( I would imagine) to telling German citizens in pre WW2 that Hitler was not a good man, Trump has played Hitler’s political handbook quite well and it shows in the way so many folks bury their head in the sand as did the German citizens during Hitler’s rise to power.
As a matter of fact, John, Americans are more forgiving of their coup plotters than Germans of the 1920s were of their coup plotters. Take a look at this comparison I described in The Nation magazine: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-hitler-coup/
Thank you Jared, Barnrat2018, & Ken Conrad! Spot on! You see clearly & have obviously done your research. Rather than following MSM propaganda & their mind control tactics, as well as, the gaslighting tactics to subvert otherwise fairly intelligent folk. It’s sad to watch people like David drink the cool aid & believe all the lies. None of this crap was happening under Trump. The plandemic was rolled out when it was to subvert the election. We were energy independent, food was not scarce, gas prices were not inflated, & people had jobs. It wasn’t perfect by any stretch, but none of this was happening! The corrupt media purposely pushed hatred for Trump because he stood in the way of the globalists’ agenda. It was all about “hate Trump” propaganda everyday for four+ years! And still continues. Now anyone on the right is considered a Trump supporter & a domestic terrorist. How ridiculous is that? Anyone for personal sovereignty, healthcare freedom, personal responsibility for one’s own life, upholding our Constitution, upholding the Nuremberg Code of laws, upholding our Bill Of Rights, is now considered a fanatic, Christian, right winger! Just wow! How far we’ve devolved in morals & values. This country was great when we were all on the same page with the above. 1/6 was NOT an insurrection! It was a protest gone bad. Purposely egged on by the FBI, Antifa, & White House Police. They opened the doors & let protesters in! They helped escalate the situation. There was no need to fire any shots, nor to kill anyone. That was done on purpose to solidify the conjured up idea of “insurrection”. They needed that death for their evil plan. Otherwise NOBODY would’ve died that day! These people in power are pure evil. Both sides! Our country is being destroyed from the top down & folks wanna keep harping about how much they hate Trump. Everything is Trump’s fault. Or now Putin’s. Look at those pointing their finger! They all have their hands in the honey pot. And Ukraine has been their hideout for corruption for decades. The Biden family is far, far more evil & corrupt than Trump. Not everyone on the right is a Trumper. We’re just for freedom, & freedom from being poisoned to death. If our government cared at all about anyone’s health & well being, they would not allow our food, water, air, & bodies to be systematically poisoned! The oligarchs would not be trying to kill us while gaslighting us & saying it’s for the good of all! They don’t care about anyone or anything except power & money! Period. Stop going along to get along. Stop believing in the propaganda you’re fed daily. There’s an agenda & it’s to depopulate the world. The oligarchs don’t need this many people. They want to play God. They want to play war games at our expense. They have destroyed our healthcare, our schools, our finances, & divided us more than ever. This is happening under THIS administration! The Democrat party has been infiltrated & is being used as a means to an end. Why? Because left leaning people are loyal to their team, & more easily go along to get along for “the good of all”, without questioning. They don’t think critically. Nor do they question authority much. They generally trust authority & believe that our government is actually for the people. Nothing could be further from the truth. We have to unite, as average citizens, against a government that is actively taking down this country & countries round the world. Research is key. Solari Report with Catherine Austin Fitts, Unlimited Hangout with Whitney Webb, The Highwire with Del Bigtree are just a few. Just a few. So many great places to find truth! Good luck.
Just a few quick points in response to your rant….
1. If the pandemic was ‘rolled out when it was to subvert the election,’ how come it happened all around the world? There weren’t elections going on everywhere. No, pandemics happen in world history. The last big one before covid was the Spanish Flu about 100 years earlier. Before that, things like the Bubonic Plague. Just because covid happened when your favorite president was running for re-election doesn’t mean it happened because he was running.
2. Jan 6 was ‘a protest gone bad.’ Except we are learning nearly every day about additional high-ranking officials who were engaged in pushing the attempted coup forward. The latest is the direct involvement of the wife of Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas in pushing Trump’s chief of staff to try to overturn the election.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/us/politics/ginni-thomas-trump-mark-meadows.html
Just today, a federal judge wrote in an opinion that Trump likely committed a felony in trying to block the counting of electoral votes.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/28/politics/john-eastman-memo/index.html
Also, I suggest you review video of the assault on the Capitol on Jan 6, 2021–you’ll see that the protesters were breaking windows to get into the building. They were determined to gain entrance.
3.The ‘evil’ of the Biden family. We’ll see how that shakes out. The U.S. Justice Department is continuing to investigate Hunter Biden’s taxes, which suggests they have evidence of wrongdoing. Even if he was guilty of tax fraud, it’s definitely not clear his father, the president, was aware.
4.I believe ‘all the lies’ of the mainstream media. That’s a lot packed into that statement, and hard to disprove a big lie like that. All I can do is point you to a book I helped write, “Inside the Upheaval of Journalism.”
https://www.peterlang.com/document/1111291
Or, you can view a video of a class I taught a few weeks ago together with another journalist, based on the book:
https://dartmouth.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Sessions/List.aspx#folderID=%2287650090-17e5-418b-aa10-adf800dbc188%22
You’ll find that a lot of your assumptions about the media are badly informed.
That’s it for now. Try giving yourself a break from Fox News, Breitbart, and all the other conspiracy-theory sites that are making huge amounts of money off people who want simple answers to explain complex events and trends.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this issue, David. I agree that the day was traumatic for many Americans (really, any American who believes in democracy and the rule of law) and that the trauma lingers. We cannot let the would-be despots succeed.
The similarities between Brandon and leftists today vs. the Nazis:
•Leftists today are more obsessive about race and genetics than maybe any group since the Nazis
•one of the first things Brandon does is prevent a certain group of people from working in govt, and even tries to get them fired from their private sector careers, similar to Hitler and the Jews
•Hitler mandated medical cards and leftists today are all in on injection passports
•forced human medical experimentation on the Jews, which after the war led to the Nuremberg code that Brandon is ignoring now
•mass censorship. Brandon admin admitted it has a list of people it wants to censor and is using private companies to do it
•singles out one group of people as the source of country problems (uninjected vs. injected)
All of this tyranny, this BS, is coming from the left. You own it and hopefully you wake up.
I have never seen America so close to tyranny as it is now. Perhaps FDR was worse as threw Japanese Americans into camps as well. Fitting he was also a leftist.
You have a source that “Hitler mandated medical cards”? The only cards I know of were special passports issued to Jews identifying them as Jews, and the yellow stars they were required to sew on their coats. There’s no “medical experimentation” going on now. I presume you are referring to vaccines, but those were widely tested in blind studies, and then approved by the FDA. Nothing even closely resembling the medical experiments carried out by the Nazis on Jews in concentration camps. There’s a lot of misinformation put out about the Nazis–suggest you do some reading of proven sources, like the book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.”
I disagree with you about the vaccines, but I don’t want to get into it right now. And yes I have read that Jews were forced to carry medical cards, and they were falsely accused of carrying disease, which was only a reason to separate them from society.
Suffice to say the party acting like Nazis in America are the democrats, no matter how much you gaslight your readership about the 1/6 riot.
David,
You state that the vaccines were widely tested in blind studies, and then approved by the FDA.
I believe you are well aware that the Covid Vaccines currently being used, depending on the country, were granted approval for use under the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) despite the shortfall in testing normally required in order to demonstrate safety and effectiveness. According to Pfizer the vaccine trials are “ongoing” and the estimated study completion date is July 30, 2023.
This Canadian professor of immunology and neurology has a different perspective with respect to the Pfizer trials as well as to the safety and efficacy of Covid injection. … Dr. Pelech is a tenured UBC professor of Immunology and Neurology and chair of the scientific and medical advisory committee for the Canadian COVID Care Alliance.
https://www.rebelnews.com/dr_steven_pelech_petition_canada_stop_covid-19_shots_for_pregnant_women_and_children?utm_campaign=rb_01_06_2022&utm_medium=email&utm_source=therebel&fbclid=IwAR24boJ50ZF90UVWSC1tbxzrlTFZOMVrUHm9JjGNVV5e1QnN4TGwE2TxGC4
Perhaps someone can explain why the FDA needed 75 years to release safety data on the Pfizer Covid vaccine…
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-eight-months-produce-pfizer-safety-data/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=ddfcdbac-ec58-435b-91ee-8c3c6cfd3156
Jared,
Please study the differences between Fascists, Socialists, Communists, Social Democrats, Democratic Socialism, etc. You are quite confused, not only over the isms, but also over the “Facts” of the past and how they are relevant to today.
David
Reading your blog is just like watching Don Lemon or Brian Stelter on CNN or any MSM news propaganda networks. They are experts on culling the weak minds. Sorry to see you’ve succumbed to that.
Thank you for the thoughtful article on January 6, 2021.
i will never forget what I saw that day. I do not have cable TV, but my new smart TV offered a free channel with a look at the signing of electoral votes. Even though I am 69 and have lived through many elections I had never watched the official counting so I put the TV on.
In the past I had been a registered Democrat, then became a registered Republican and in 2016 I became a registered Independent. I was not happy with the choices I had for president and decided to not be registered in either party.
When I saw my fellow Americans scaling the walls, and fighting the Capital police,, using tear gas, throwing heavy flag poles and base ball bats, I thought I was some watching some banana republic.Not America! I watched the lady breaking into the Capital get shot, I saw how some of these people had to have been trained in the military and witnessed the violence of Americans fighting Americans. I watched the lone police man stand his ground blocking the protestors from going up the stairs to continue their violence .It was all so surreal. I watched tragic history being made for hours.
I watched with horror how the violent protestors greatly outnumbered the Capital police, and wondered how come no one sent in the National Guard, or someone to stop it. Dusk started to fall and then an announcement Maryland was sending their National Guard, and Virginia was sending in the Fairfax County Police. Where was the Pentagon, who are right down the street? The biggest most powerful military in the world and they can’t put down this violence?
My son is a Fairfax County Police officer and a chill went down my spine as I saw men in his uniform line up. He is father to my 6 grandchildren, and became a police officer to protect and serve and I started to cry. Worry consumed me as I watched in horror. I frantically called my daughter in law to see what time my son’s shift was over and happily heard that he was on his way home safe.
The scene of police being brutalized by civilians was horrendous. So many police who defended our right to a safe transfer of power were hurt and traumatized by that day. Many had health issues develop later and had PTSD and some died of suicide. Morale was so low for those public servants who only sought to do their job. They were greatly outnumbered by violent protestors aka. insurrectionists who were in many cases ex military. Off duty police attacking on duty police. Incredible to see what’s become of America.
I hope the justice is done, and the perpetrators of this are apprehended.
Reading some of the comments pertaining to this article just add to my disillusionment of the state of our country. It’s truly divided and will not stand unless we come together.
Kathy, thanks for sharing your family’s experiences. Clearly more people were seriously traumatized by the events of Jan. 6 than I may have allowed, and law enforcement personnel were right up there, on the front lines. I hope as well that the perpetrators are apprehended, because a good number of them include elected officials who conspired among themselves to spark the mob, to delay sending in the National Guard troops for three hours, to try to get the vice president to violate the U.S. Constitution….yes, I believe we’ll find that this was a real live conspiracy (as opposed to all the wishful-thinking conspiracies from QAnon and such). The House investigation has begun to unravel some of that, and I think we’re going to see more in the coming weeks as the investigation moves into public hearings.
I love our constitutional freedoms, but I’m also sick of hypocritic politicians on both sides of the isle in Washington who abuse their power and undermine our constitutional rights, whilst banging the drum about defending them. If the rioters on Jan 6 had a raison d’etre, I think this was it. Paul Wallis says it better than I could:
https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/op-ed-political-criminality-january-6-rico-and-recognizing-realities-or-bye-bye-america/articleonal freedoms
And I agree with Jared,:it was a riot, not an insurrection. That being said, our democratic institutions are sacred, those who rioted in the Capitol must be punished, and this must never happen again.
But can I ask you a question David? Why where the security arrangements in the Capitol so lax? Did you look into that at all? The Security Services were obviously monitoring these people on social media, yet nothing was done to beef up security. The erection of fences etc. after the event – closing the barn door as it were – was obviously more a political statement than a necessary security step.
An insurrection is an attempted overthrow of the government. The violence in the Capitol was designed to delay the final vote to certify Joe Biden’s election as president, to enable Donald Trump to remain as president when his term expired–in other words, overthrow the duly elected new government officials. If that’s not insurrection, I’m not sure what is.
Your questions about security arrangements in the Capitol are good ones, and I don’t have good answers. Someone else here suggested the FBI staged the insurrectionist, and I said that Trump appointed the head of the FBI; maybe it’s valid to ask if the FBI was being lax in its enforcement to support Trump’s effort to carry out a coup. A former government official I know wondered aloud if the security at the Capitol would have been so lax if the mob was made of up of black protesters. I tend to doubt it. There’s also the Q about why it took the Defense Department three hours to approve sending in National Guard troops to help the Capitol police. In any event, I hope the House investigation of the insurrection attempt will come up with answers to these questions.
Like I said in my comment above, read the following article from Revolver.news if you want answers to these questions. I doubt you will read that article though. I wish you would prove me wrong though.
https://www.revolver.news/2021/12/damning-new-details-massive-web-unindicted-operators-january-6/
As far as Trump appointing Christopher Wray to the FBI, of course you are twisting facts here to make it look like Christopher Wray is a Trump supporter just because Trump appointed him. That is a main reason why I don’t want Trump back in the White House. He consistently picked horrible people to be around him. His bad judgment cost him re=election. Trump listened too much to his democratic daughter Ivanka and his son in law Jared.
I read the Revolver article, and it sounds like so much speculation….like so many of the conspiracy theories. So here’s an article from the British pub, Daily Mail, which sent reporters to track Epps down and hear ‘from the horse’s mouth’ what happened. Epps ordered the reporters off his property. Doesn’t seem like he’s in hiding or been eliminated by the FBI.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10347577/Ex-Marine-accused-FBI-plant-sent-incite-Jan-6-riot-pictured-ranch.html
“like so many of the conspiracy theories…” It’s incredible you don’t see the irony as you say that.
You mean like the conspiracy theory that 1/6 was a plot to overthrow the govt. rather than a stupid riot? That’s a huge conspiracy theory you’re peddling that has no basis in reality whatsoever. Was Trump acquitted in his second impeachment or not? How many of the rioters (or shall we say peaceful protestors) on 1/6 have been charged or convicted of insurrection?
What about the conspiracy theory that the Russians rigged the 2016 election? That was has absolutely been disproven and it’s actually much worse than that, since it was a contrivance that the democrats came up with to overturn the 2016 election.
But the fact remains that he is still not indicted. Why? We don’t know yet for sure. He is certainly guilty of inciting a people. to illegally enter the capitol whether he personally entered the capitol or not.
I don’t know if Revolver said he is in hiding or was eliminated by the FBI. But Revolver did say this.
“Enter Ray Epps — the only individual found in the mountains of video evidence from January 6th who explicitly called for a mission to “go into the Capitol.” This bombshell piece shows extensive video footage of Epps recruiting others for this bizarre mission, and following up on his intentions on January 6th. We show Epps at the very first breach site of the Capitol grounds, whispering into another individual’s ear two seconds before that same individual goes on to perform the first and decisive breach.
So who is Ray Epps? This piece answers this question with a deep dive into Epps’ background and his affiliation with Stewart Rhodes (mentioned in previous reports). We note that a day after Revolver published our bombshell report on Rhodes, the FBI scrubbed Epps’ name and face from its public “most wanted” database. Now, the FBI claims to not know who Epps is. Epps to this day remains unindicted and unsearched. Curiously, the January 6 Committee has exhibited just as little interest in this individual as the FBI has, despite Epps appearing to be the key orchestrator of the initial breach of Capitol grounds.”
Barnrat, you have fallen into a trap. It’s the same trap places like Revolver and Trump have led you and others in claiming election fraud. Yes, Epps hasn’t been indicted and he isn’t talked about by the FBI, House committee, etc. So it looks very sinister in light of the video. But the investigation isn’t complete. There are a number of individuals like Epps, a number of them much higher in the food chain, who played a role in the insurrection and haven’t been prosecuted or otherwise acted on. The fact is that the investigation and legal process isn’t over. In any major criminal investigation, and this one is a huge one, there are people who were involved who eventually become witnesses and/or cut deals with the prosecution to testify in exchange for lighter sentences, or no sentences. That’s the nature of our legal system, in which you have to convince a jury of ordinary people that certain events occurred. I don’t know exactly what’s going on with Epps, but I would bet a lot it isn’t that he’s part of some coverup conspiracy. Same thing on the election fraud. Places like Revolver were producing photos of election workers and postal workers moving ballots around, to prove supposed fraud. It turned out that when many millions of ballots are processed, there are actions that, when photographed in isolation, suggest wrongdoing….but actually are part of a larger process.
The problem you and many others face is that you wants very badly to “prove” a certain outcome, so you grasp onto any “evidence” to support the thesis. Places like Revolver make serious $$$ capitalizing on that tendency.
I forget what you call it when your side is executing a government takeover, and you also own the press so you loudly scream that the victims are conducting an insurrection when they are protesting the takeover?
David,
If you ever want a mental and emotional reprieve come stay with me at Raw Farm.
I read the comments and really wonder… deeply. Just as a psychiatrist would listen and take notes but say literally nothing.
I have fought the FDA. I have battled my state regulators. I have beat my head against brick walls.
But I have learned some golden lessons from these battles.
By fixing the food safety issues by embracing testing and good management… all of the battles faded and went away. Instead they are replaced by peace…mutual respect that is well earned from those that I battled. When I no longer have problems: They no longer have problems with me.
This blog is a mental illness magnet. Conspiracy becomes a tragic cult.
I am double vaccinated and boosted. Loving life. Feeling great, Serving all ….thriving. Drinking my favorite raw milk Vanilla Kefir. I don’t ask or talk about politics, abortion, religion, sexual orientation, vaccination status, gun lover status, or anything that would judge anyone. I concentrate on grand kids, normal things, best places to escape and yes….all things raw milk. By concentrating on normalcy….I get normalcy and peace in my heart. Not denial just normalcy. I have friends on all sides of every discussion. Is it really worth fighting with everyone ? Dividing up our communities. No it’s not!
We only have a short time on this earth. Choose how you spend your time wisely. Every minute that passes is gone forever. Choose the mountains you are willing to fight and die on wisely. Conspiracy mountains are mental illness hills. I know people that have literally lost everything on mental illness mountains by believing lies. The bigger the lie the more committed they to believing it!
People.
Find health in mind body, gut and soul. Hug your kids and grand kids. We are our government. Vote! Run for office yourself ! Our country is not out to kill you and take anything from you. The loss of freedoms you might feel are your loss of mental health on a mountain of bad choices and your inability to clear your head and keep both feet on the dirt.
Follow people with good hearts, good ethics and solid morals. America is far from perfect but it is founded in good principles. It is up to us to engage to make this a more prefect union.
David… hang in there brother. Stay sane.
Love all, feed all, serve all.
Mark,
I have chosen the mountain that I am willing to fight and die on… FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
Our countries may not be out to kill us but they are without question attempting to deny individuals and groups their freedom to choose and their freedom to challenge the status quo… If you are happy being vaccinated then good for you. I however, choose not to be subjected to an experimental medical procedure/injection that I believe to be invasive, unnatural and a detrimental to overall good health. I especially resent the fact that my government is attempting to coerce me and my children into receiving such an injection with the threat of losing our jobs/livelihood. As well the accusation by the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau that those who appose the vaccine are extremists who don’t believe in science”, and that “they’re often misogynists, also often racists” is ludicrous.
The following book titled, “My Choice: The Ethical Case Against COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates” Dec 8 2021 is very much worth taking the time to read.
“In the fall of 2021, Dr. Julie Ponesse saw her academic career of 20 years fall apart after she refused a Canadian university’s COVID vaccine mandate. This is her account of the battle and its aftermath, written with passion and intelligence. But Dr. Ponesse’s story travels beyond the personal and examines the ethical and philosophical dimensions of our pandemic response. If there is anyone out there who feels alone in the struggle to preserve personal choice and freedom, this book offers some very human advice on how to move forward and makes it clear that your voice deserves to be heard.”
https://www.amazon.ca/My-Choice-Ethical-COVID-19-Mandates/dp/1989555691
Ken,
I share your dislike for mandates. Let people choose their own fate. Better or worse. It’s your choice.
Why should the government care? We must have good information from which we can make informed choices. Then everyone make their choices.
For me… I chose using all the available tools. Vaccination, a powerful gut micro biome, through consumption of raw milk and Kefir and whole food nutrition
I feel great. So does everyone on in my family that does the same.
Viva La choice!
Mark, I’ve got a question for you…
Being that you have had experiencing dealing with the FDA, why do you think the FDA needed 75 years to release safety data on the Pfizer Covid vaccine? As far as I am concerned that data should be made readily available and the judge’s order requiring Pfizer release the data in 8 months is still too long…
“Judge Gives FDA 8 Months, Not 75 Years, to Produce Pfizer Safety Data”
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-eight-months-produce-pfizer-safety-data/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=ddfcdbac-ec58-435b-91ee-8c3c6cfd3156&fbclid=IwAR32Zfb2gJwvi1p2kFr4LtlI6XeIorR_6yY3a-xi2QM_VDQPvEy8PFBX3K4
It is he said, she said. David, you have not proven to me that I have fallen into any trap of wrong thinking and I and/or others here are not convincing you that. your version of 1/6. is a conspiracy theory of the left again to make sure that Trump won’t make a comeback for 2024. And you don’t acknowledge that The Russia Russia Hoax was just. that a 4 or 5 year long hoax to discredit Trump. Even the. mainstream media has admitted that.
You skillfully focus the conversation on Trump, a highly charged subject , pick and choose your battles and totally avoid addressing when someone on this blog pins you in. a corner. Yes, you are an exceedingly skilled debater.
But at the same time it is confounding to me that you liberals can accept the draconian lockdowns of both. liberal and Rino (it is after all the uni-party of liberals and pseudo conservatives), accept the forced vaccinations, vaccination passports, ignore the rioting of Antifa and Black Lives Matter, ignore the disrespect of law and order(except when it comes to 1/6). write off the over 40 deaths in the summer of 2020, condone a two tiered justice system. Condone a senile president, condone far left radicals in the cabinet, condone the razing of the middle class, condone our country heading to a two class country with the elite rich class and the poor of which BTW the elite rich class are the true oppressors of the poor (mostly brown).This is an invitation to bring in tyranny.
As Ronald Reagan said, ‘If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism’
All I said is that the Jan. 6 insurrection hasn’t fully played out, in response to your/Revolver claim that one insurrectionist is some kind of FBI plant. There are (at least) two investigations ongoing–by the U.S. House of Representative and by the U.S. Justice Department. Perhaps others we’re not aware of. The investigations appear to be focusing on whether there were higher-ups involved in planning for the violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6, beyond the couple hundred-plus foot soldiers who have pleaded guilty thus far.
As for the Russia investigation by special counsel Robert Muller, some 34 people and 3 companies were indicted or convicted for various crimes associated with election improprieties. No “hoax” that I’m aware of. Real people were convicted and went to jail (till they were pardoned by Trump on his way out the door).
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury
As you suggest, we’ve probably come as far as we can in this discussion. You have this way, when one of your claims is shown to be inaccurate, of moving on, the old “and what about this….” “and what about that….” You’ve got a whole list–vaccine mandates, Black Lives Matter, a president in his 70s, people in the cabinet whose political philosophies you despise, etc., etc., etc. I don’t care to go down all the rabbit holes.
David, the old adage, you can fix ugly, but you cannot fix stupid, certainly rings true with many on here. They just refuse to see the truth, not surprised, are you really ?
Let me say this first.
In the early morning hours of January 8th 2022, the Raw Farm creamery facility burnt to the ground. The fire was intense destroying cheese inventories and all equipment, forklifts and a tractor pulling a milk tanker.
The business offices were spared the wholesale destruction.
We are all in shock. But… our team is adaptive and very resilient.
In the first few hours of the day we already developed an alternative location to bottle milk and make other products.
The cows and dairy were not effected.
On this life we don’t always get to choose what we are given. But we can definitely choose what we do with what we are given.
We feel tremendous support from our consumers.
Our team and brand is strong. Set your stop clocks. We will be back up in record time.
Fire investigation is ongoing. We don’t know what started it.
So glad and blessed that no one was hurt.
Mark and our wonderful at Raw Farm
Very sorry, Mark….But it sounds like you guys are on it. And the fact that you’ve made so many friends among both farmers and regulators over the years should help a lot in getting you going in a new facility. Please keep us up on how it goes–a lot of people here rooting for you.
Here’s an early news report about the fire:
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article257153537.html?fbclid=IwAR3jvoGC6B8I_JI5uIkSBg-jebhTMj8EyqchwI3GM-qUsRUt_W_t1B-SDK0
Yes, I’m sorry to hear about your missfortune…
I’m so sorry to hear about the fire, Mark. What a loss of equipment and facilities. Thank goodness your cows were spared! Best wishes for rebuilding after this terrible event.
I stopped by there on last Wednesday, picked up a few raw supplies, admiring the splendor of plentiful grazing grass. Next trip by Jameson will be more brutal. As a somewhat local and loyal customer, I know you and Blaine et all will find your resources and beyond. Thanks David for the link.
Raw Farm News update.
Our creamery crews did not get sent home. They got sent to our new facilities in Fowler California to work overtime ! In just two days we found, bought and installed a replacement Delavalle 510 milk cream separator. We start making cheese on Thursday. We found and bought a replacement 12 head Federal filler, capper and label application system in Texas It’s on the truck for delivery on. Friday. It will be installed over the weekend. We ordered new labels to show our new plant number of 06-148. Every location has a different plant number and has to change the labels to reflect the location change. The entire plant is being painted our brand colors tomorrow inside and out. It’s a brand make over including a new Raw Farm sign out front. The city of Fowler is welcoming us with open arms. We have a fire station 1000 feet away with police patrol around the clock with good security, video cameras and lights.
Our trucks are patiently waiting. Our drivers are resting up. All day long our wonderful customers calling us saying…. The stores are sold out… where is the raw milk! Then we have to break the news. It will be six more days. Then they freak out. Over and over again. They say…. I can not drink pasteurized stuff. It makes me sick. I only drink yours.
This is a race against time. Time to start the filler! And start the routes again.
Pushing, running, pressing, climbing.
So happy to hear of this Mark!!! A true blessing! Thoroughly impressed at the resiliency of you and the team over at Raw Farm!
Any update on what caused the fire? You mentioning police patrol makes it sound like you guys think someone started it?
Great news.
Today CDFA did their plant inspection and issued our Grade A plant permit #06-148 to Raw Farm in Fowler California. This will allow us to reopen as soon as our equipment is installed. This is happening right now.
We do not have any idea if someone did this or who that might be. No idea. Fire detectives and sherif detectives investigating.
All I know is that our team is working really hard and all of our venders are pulling hard for us. So many of our customers calling us saying : where is the milk at the stores.
Today we were released to tell the story by the investigation team. We went live and shared a live feed and video of the destruction
We are 100.% focussed and restart and getting products back into stores.
Today we celebrated the new creamery facility restart. After receiving our Test & Hold pathogen batch data, in the morning we bottle thousands of half gallons of raw milk and rush them back into 632 stores. Cream will be delayed by a few more days. Our cream separator is still being installed. Our butter churn is being built for us. There are no 250-300 gallon butter churns in the USA or Canada. I think our raw butter will be packed in plastic tubs. We can not find a butter stick maker anywhere. The only one we can find is in Europe.
It’s been a seven day miracle.
And on the seventh day they bottled Rawmilk!
So many people on our team working tirelessly and with focused purpose! A huge thank you to CDFA inspectors. They did a pre inspection to give us a heads up on any issues. Then issued our Grade A plant permit on day 5 with a plant score of 100!
This is a tribute to teamwork. I could not be more proud.
Cheese will start being made tomorrow and aging for sixty days.
Kefir will start right away.
One of the strangest twists of fate….
The facility came with a very nice and pretty new HTST pasteurized. We are selling it for a nice price. That pasteurizer is paying for raw bottling equipment?!? What a contrast in pathways and twists of fate
So glad to hear that you are back up and running! May everything go smoothly from here on out.
Great News mark, quite impressive!!
After 13 days,
Raw milk gallons and half gallons plus Raw Kefir back into 635 stores in California.
7000 pounds of cheese already made and sitting on aging shelves. Next week cream back on shelves. The week after butter will be back. At least we think so. We are buying a churn out of northern Wisconsin and the trucking is questionable.
Interesting consumer buyer behavior. A combination of panic buying, and Raw Milk Go Fund Me support!
We told everyone that we are not doing a Go Fund Me. Instead we are asking…. Just buy up Raw Farm raw milk and get extra.
We can not keep product in stores. Double the normal sales or more. We don’t know the top of this market demand ? We deliver 100 half gallons to a store. Twice what is normal. It sells out the same day or the next ! How I am supposed to interpret that data?
I know there is true concern for not being able to get product. Some product hoarding going on.
One thing for sure…. I love our consumers. Thank you thank you thank you. ❤️❤️❤️
Canada’s MSM referring to truckers convoy as Canada’s Jan. 6 “insurrection”…
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/conservative-mps-cheer-on-trucker-convoy-voice-opposition-to-vaccine-mandates-1.5754495
“While organizers say they are running a peaceful and law-abiding demonstration, experts have raised concerns over the online discourse related to the trucker convoy. From social media posts expressing anti-government and violent sentiments to a suggestion that the event could be like a Canadian version of the January 6, 2021 insurrection at the U.S.”
Clearly the word, “insurection” has been seriously abused and overused in the last 12 month in order to justify a political narrative.
For once, I agree with you, Ken. What the U.S. endured Jan. 6 was an attempted insurrection (overthrow of the government). The mob targeted the #2 and #3 in line for the presidency (VP Mike Pence and Speaker Nancy Pelosi). A gallows was set up outside to string them up. The president sat watching, hoping the vote to confirm his successor would be sidetracked. It was just a matter of luck that it didn’t end as a successful insurrection. What’s happening in Canada sounds like legitimate protest. The truckers aren’t about to ram their trucks into parliament and murder the prime minister, or similar. Anti-government chatter and sentiments don’t qualify as “insurrection.”
David,
What do you call this abuse of power in the last year whereby politicians, government officials and the media are working together to actively fann the flames of division and hostility against those who desire to make an informed choice?
Your belief that “what’s happening in Canada sounds like legitimate protest” is not shared by the MSM who persist in attempting to discredit the demonstration by accusing some of the truckers and their and their supporters, as red neck, misogynistic bigots or by the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau for that matter who has made several public statements labeling those, who oppose his mandates and who are participating in this and other demonstrations, as a “fringe group of extremists who don’t believe in science”, are “holding unacceptable views”, and that they are “often misogynists and racists”…
As Ezra Levant points out in his broadcast, “And so you’re starting to hear their drum-beat — that this convoy is violent! That they will ram their trucks into things! He adds, “Here’s a newsletter called Parliament Today, who actually published some global security “expert” who said, I’m not kidding, that anyone who donated money to the convoy could be prosecuted for the crime of supporting terrorism. This kook referenced January 6, what the left calls an insurrection, even though not a single person has been charged with insurrection.”
https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_january_27_2022?utm_campaign=rnp_1_27_22&utm_medium=email&utm_source=therebel
If you don’t have time to listen to Ezra’s entire broadcast perhaps you can go the 4:20 minute mark where he includes a 1 minute and 49 second statement made by Ottawa Carlton MP Pierre Poilievre addressing the medias attempt to disparage the trucker’s convoy.
I don’t pretend to be able to predict where the Canadian trucker protests will wind up, but I do know that Ezra Levant might be better off sticking to Canadian affairs in his rants….He says “not a single person has been charged with insurrection” in America’s Jan. 6 attempted insurrection. He either is unaware or chooses to ignore this significant piece of news a couple weeks back:
“WASHINGTON – Eleven members of the Oath Keepers, including its leader Stewart Rhodes, were indicted Thursday on charges of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol for allegedly trying to overthrow the government, the harshest charges yet filed in cases against more than 700 people….” Sedition is a close cousin of insurrection–maybe you want to look it up. And the feds aren’t done….
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/01/13/justice-department-charges-oath-keepers-sedition-jan-6-capitol-attack/6514543001/
Be that as it may David, but you have not answered my question as to why there is such an abuse of power and a deliberate intent to foment division and hostility against those who have chosen to make an informed choice?
If a premier who was involved in the construction and adoption of Canada’s Charter of Rights and freedoms has to go to such lengths in order to ensure human rights in Canada, then there is something terribly amiss… What concerns me however is that this is not merely a Canadian occurrence in that it is also occurring simultaneously in many other countries throughout the world…
“Former Newfoundland premier suing feds over air travel vaccine mandate”
https://tnc.news/2022/01/26/former-newfoundland-premier-suing-feds-over-air-travel-vaccine-mandate/?fbclid=IwAR0Skb3wLKhEcy66LxYaZHVdLCC36hPxOpFqlPKZWONcfpTYMPW0Mxx_t3g
Ken, you may consider the conflict over vaccination to be “an abuse of power…,” but many people consider it a conflict between the rights of the community vs the rights of the individual. As you say, different countries have gone in different directions on this. Countries like Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, and others, tilted toward the rights of the community. Others, like Brazil and Mexico have gone toward the individual. The U.S. has been somewhere in the middle, going back and forth. If you look at the data, the countries favoring community rights came out in much better shape. But that’s not the only issue dividing people, and I think that a big part of what’s happening with the trucker protest in Canada is that Canada is playing catchup with the U.S. in terms of polarization. I know a number of food rights advocates in Canada are feeling pretty energized about the protests, but I can tell you based on years now of polarizing debates that it gets old very quickly. You realize that it would be nice to have some common ground, some unity of purpose, rather than endless argument and debate and name-calling on nearly every issue of consequence. Heck, the U.S. couldn’t even decide for some years to commit to something as basic as infrastructure. Finally, a majority of pols was able to agree that the country is literally falling apart (per the bridge collapse yesterday in Pittsburgh) and start spending. Unfortunately, that’s the exception. When things become so intractable, you have one group or another decide that the only way out is to take the law into their own hands, which is what occurred here Jan. 6, 2021, and then democracy itself is at risk.
David,
When it comes to bodily integrity, it is imperative that each individual have a choice… Using coercion in an attempt to compel an individual to receive a medical intervention that violates that integrity, especially when that intervention is experimental and potentially harmful, is essentially evil… Ron Paul also makes a relevant point in stating, “When we give government the power to make medical decisions for us, we in essence accept that the state owns our bodies.”
With respect to those who place, “the rights of the community” aka “collective human rights” above individual rights, the following report titled, “How “Collective Human Rights” Undermine Individual Human Rights” is very much worth reading.
https://www.heritage.org/global-politics/report/how-collective-human-rights-undermine-individual-human-rights
Indeed, the report “enumerates the ways that collective human rights are a threat to individual human rights and how they drive human rights proliferation and inflation, how they dilute attention to basic freedoms, clutter and politicize the international human rights agenda, and how they impair—sometimes intentionally—efforts to identify and address violations of individual civil and political rights. Collective rights are fragmenting and divisive, corrosive of the vision of humanity as such—the moral vision that gives human rights their potential as an inclusive, international movement on behalf of all individuals, everywhere”.
In other words, collective rights encourage a tribalistic mentality(tribalism)… Heaven forbids if an individual is not compliant with the tribe… something that I can certainly relate to being that I meat the mask exemption criteria and being unvaccinated.
The thing about community rights vs individual rights is that there’s no right or wrong answer, because it’s a question of values. Can some rich individual buy up property next door to you and set up an amusement park because he thinks it would be cool for his friends and family? Probably not, because the ‘community’ long ago enacted zoning laws …to protect the community from the noise and traffic and other disruption that would occur. Should we have interstate highways, even though they invariably require the some neighborhoods are disrupted? What about public schools, which require that ‘the community’ be taxed, even though many don’t have kids in the schools? And yes, what about people who refuse to wear masks during a plague, and thus knowingly expose co-workers and teachers in school (the community) to increased risk of serious illness….Should the community take steps it knows will provide some protection, or permit a minority to exercise some version of personal rights at the expense of the community? Most communities decide in favor of zoning, highways, public schools, and public health standards. But some don’t….it’s a matter of values.
I remember when my kids had graduated public school, and votes would come up in town for special assessments to help particular schools modernize or improve instruction. There would be debate among residents who no longer had kids in the schools–should we support such assessments, which would raise our taxes? I always supported them as a matter of values. I felt that the community had an obligation to provide high quality education for all children. Fortunately, other residents usually agreed. And we benefited, because our town continued to have among the highest-rated schools in the state, and as a result, property values soared. I was fortunate to live in a place that valued the needs of the community.
David,
I have no issue with people freely working together as individuals for a common cause… and yes, the government often takes on the role of administering the communities right to that common cause. Unfortunately, when the government advocates “the rights of the community” on an individual via coercion with little to zero regard for that individual’s inalienable rights then the government’s action is not constructive and it is certainly not ethical… A good example would be the native residential school system in Canada, created and administered via a joint effort between the government and religious institution with the medical profession often involved. Of course, this was a community rights issue that was administered for the “greater good”.
The following article titled,” Canada’s shameful history of nutrition research on residential school children: The need for strong medical ethics in Aboriginal health research” states,“Last year, Ian Mosby, a food historian and postdoctoral fellow at the University of Guelph (Guelph, Ontario), revealed details of highly unethical nutrition experiments performed on Canadian Aboriginal children at six residential schools between 1942 and 1952 (2) – our own medical atrocities. The experiments were performed by the Department of Indian Affairs of Canada under the direction of two physicians: Dr Percy Moore, the Indian Affairs Branch Superintendent of Medical Services, and Dr Frederick Tisdall, a famed nutritionist, a former president of the Canadian Paediatric Society and one of three paediatricians at The Hospital for Sick Children (Toronto, Ontario) who developed Pablum infant cereal in the 1930s. In these experiments, parents were not informed, nor were consents obtained. Even as children died, the experiments continued. Even after the recommendations from the Nuremberg trial, these experiments continued”.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3941673/
Constitutions, the charter of rights, the hypocritic oath and the Nuremburg code all have codified protocols explicitly established to protect individual rights. When governments fail to consider those protocols in their endeavor to implement “community rights” for the greater good then they are in violation of the basic principle of fundamental justice.
oh, don’t be so ridiculous, Mr Gumpert. What h appened in Washington DC, on Jan 6th 2021, was a made-for-media psy.operation of the first order. FBI agents insinuated throughout the crowd. Longtime agents of intelligence agencies playing leading roles … literally directing traffic. Get your head out of that Eastern Establishment echochamber. People get the government they deserve … which is why hAmerica has a doddering old fool propped-up presiding as the American Empire stumbles-around in the early stages of Alzeheimers
As usual, you provide no sources for your alternative reality. Maybe you’re too embarrassed to actually name the names in your FBI-conspiracy fantasy. So here’s some reality–there’s an Arizona guy who seems to have actively participated in some of the events Jan. 6, who has been accused by Trumpers of having been a secret informant for the FBI. Only problem is that he hasn’t just disappeared, as you’d expect of a secret informant, but he’s been right out there, and was interviewed recently by the House Committee investigating Jan. 6, and told them he has no connections to the FBI or any law enforcement. His name is Ray Epps, and here is one story of his interview by the committee.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/11/politics/january-6-ray-epps-fbi-false-flag/index.html
The thing I don’t get about you conspiracy wackos is why you can’t just stand up like real men and admit you were trying to prevent Biden’s confirmation, and use force to keep Trump in power? It doesn’t do as you planned, so you point fingers at “leftists” and “Black Lives Matter” and “the FBI,” and on and on. Why not stand up for what you believe in, which was to overthrow the government?
David, I certainly admire your patience and will to speak the truth!!! But, Alas, I say you are still wasting your time, you will not convince these people of the truth, only time will, Maybe!!
Gordon,
Got a call several days ago. They said Bill Gates burned down the Opdc Raw Farm creamery.
Conspiracy theories are just too much.
Mark… no, I won’t go along with Bill Gates as the prime suspect.
But what I’ve learned in 35 years of political activism, is > newbies don’t appreciate the depth of wickedness. nature of the enemy. Meaning : it is more likely the disaster at your place, was Arson, than that it was random spontaneous combustion.
After 25 years, you know how profoundly important is the work you do = OP Raw Farm are educating people at the from the bottom of the hierarchy of commerce and to the very top = corporate dividends. There are individuals / corporate interests who greatly resent you exposing – in the most practical ways – the utter perversion of the food supply. They hate you without cause.
we all wish you well
looks like British Columbia will be the test case for a legal ruling on whether butter from raw milk, is an “health hazard”. If we win the point here, we win it for every province. OP Raw Farm could then ship your wonderful stuff, in to Canada.
as for mocking the idea of “conspiracy theories” … the govt. prosecutes “criminal conspiracies” every day. In my own career, at Judge acknowledged I had proven the govt. of BC had gone after me because I was exposing its corruption.
At Nuremberg in 1946, the Allies had no law upon which to predicate prosecution of the major war criminals/ the Nazi doktors. So they came up with the notion that there had been a Grand conspiracy to make war against the Peace of the Nations. Listen to Lead Prosecutor Robert Jackson lay out that premise, in his opening remarks to the Court.
as for your comment on Jan. 06 2022 re “medical passes”. I have an image of the Geshundeit pass. It looks authentic. If I were tech-savy enough, I’d post it on this forum.
Suffice to say = you have an awfully large blind spot re what went on in the 3rd Reich, MR Gumpert. I recommend you take the free course in Revisionist history, as set out on the website of Dr Henry Makow. Like you, he lost his Jewish grandparents in the conflagration in Europe peddled as “World War Two”. After 20 years compiling the EVIDENCE … largely from first-hand Jewish and Zionist sources … he comes to a very different conclusion than the reigning myth as put out in Shirer’s Rise+Fall.
Gordon,
Had not heard of the Canadian raw butter case. Our case against the FDA in our attempt to liberate raw butter over state lines has some powerful science in it. Low ph, low moisture, added salt, cultured …all add up to very low risk food. Much lower than pasteurized dairy products. How about zero deaths in 80 years !!!!
Raw butter is highly anti inflammatory and delicious. Yum! Good for the brain.
Not many people know that butter fat is mostly a specialized fiber. It feeds bacteria in the lower gut.
David, your “community good” argument is nonsensical. If the vaccines work, you have immunity and my vaccination status is irrelevant. If the vaccine doesn’t work (and we know now it doesn’t, except maybe a few months) no one should take it.
Only one of the vaccines now has full FDA approval, and we can’t get that one because it’s not commercially available. You as a journalist should write about that.
In countries that keep good data and are transparent with it, the fully vaccinated and boosted are getting infected at much higher rates and they’re hospitalized more as well.
In principle no one should be forced to take the vaccines and as a practical matter these vaccines just don’t work. Plus they have a horrible safety profile. To boot, Covid is treatable if addressed early enough and even in the initial strain, something like 80 percent of cases were asymptomatic. Omicron is a cold.
If you want the jab, go for it but please stop with the disgusting mandates.
I never mentioned vaccines, yet you and others are so obsessed about the subject you can’t discuss anything else. And then in your discussion, you make flat statements without any documentation that are blatantly false (covid vaccines don’t work, fully vaccinated are being hospitalized more than unvaccinated). Here’s a summary of latest CDC data on deaths from Covid, and the rates are many times higher for the unvaccinated vs the vaccinated. Moreover, those who have been boosted have an even lower mortality rate that those with the standard vaccinations. The biggest problem with the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines is that the benefits wear off sooner than we’d like.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/briefing/boosters-cdc-covid-effectiveness.html
“Professor Ehud Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and one of the leading Israeli immunologists, has written an open letter (titled ‘Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure’) sharply criticizing the Israeli – and indeed global – management of the coronavirus pandemic.”
https://swprs.org/professor-ehud-qimron-ministry-of-health-its-time-to-admit-failure/
The letter states,
“In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.”
‘Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.
‘You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.
‘You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007”, p. 26).
‘You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.
‘You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.
‘You refused to adopt the “Barrington Declaration”, signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).
‘You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines, and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did with some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.
‘Irreversible damage to trust
‘However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.
‘You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.
‘You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.
‘When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — they are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.
‘There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and psychological engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.
‘This emergency must stop!”
Ken, I will say that hopefully, in the end, the truth will prevail.
John, Because of testimonies made by frontline nurses such as the one below, the truth will eventually prevail.
Yet, for being so concerned about the community & people’s lives, there seems to be no concern for all those who’ve been severely injured or killed by these “vaccines”. And the VAERS reporting system is only 1% of the true numbers. There have been babies that died after their 1st injection. Actually bleeding out their eyes, nose, mouth, & ears as they suffered terribly before dying! There are countless people who have suffered from these “vaccines”, & they’re just merely chocked up as collateral damage, I guess. Those who support the mandates & passports will cause much more harm than good. One size does NOT fit all. The package insert on every vaccine states clearly that anyone who’s ever had a negative reaction to a vaccine, should not get any more vaccines. That’s a lot of people, including my 24 yr. old son who had a bad reaction to the MMR at 10 months old & subsequently suffered seizures for the 1st five years of his life! I certainly hope you do not support mandates, passports, concentration camps for the unjabbed, & total tyranny in this country where our veterans fought & died for our freedoms! Life is a risk. Live it as best you can. Make your own choices, but keep the government out of our business! Don’t believe in herd immunity. That’s more bs. If the “vaccines” worked, you wouldn’t need boosters. All within the same year, no less! Have you studied the ingredients & how these are made? The lack of oversight of these vaccine manufacturers? The history of Fauci? The history of these pharmaceutical companies? The history of all vaccines? The history of data manipulation in these labs & within these big pharma companies? The Tuskeegie Program? The experiments carried out by Fauci on NYC foster kids? All the lies, deceit, manipulation of the FDA, CDC, WHO, NIH, DEA, FDA, CIA, EPA, & every other department? My God! Why do you trust so blindly that your health & well being is their utmost concern? When they’ve all been busted time & again doing nefarious things to subvert the people & make massive amounts of money. Shocking really.
Yes I do not understand why David trusts so blindly in all those government agencies EXCEPT any government agency that limits food rights. David will tell us of course how that is completely different in his view. But we should all stop commenting here because is it possible we are funding part of David’s retirement by doing so? IMHO we will never make any headway with him on accepting conservative viewpoints. Nor IMHO will we change the sycophants on this site.
Barnrat, sorry it’s taken me a few hours to respond to your comment, but I’ve literally been convulsed in laughter at your remark, “….is it possible we are funding part of David’s retirement by (commenting)?” Now, that is a conspiracy I wish I was part of, that every time you comment or visit this blog, I make $$$. Beautiful. Except, where is the money coming from? There is no advertising on this site. No sponsors. No subscription charges. No donors (though here, I must take some responsibility, because I probably could have made some money over the years by asking for donations). No, this blog has literally been a labor of love. They only way I’ve benefited financially has been from small amounts I’ve earned from three books I’ve published about raw dairy and food rights over the years….and those books were written separately from the posts on this site. But I understand, you need your dark conspiracies to explain everything and everyone you don’t agree with. I feel badly for you.
David,
The similarities of yesterday and today is quite astounding, the Germans pre WW2 and almost half of our population in the USA today have quite similar views. Does this sound familiar: Make Germany Great Again
Germany had suffered a soul-crushing defeat in World War I (WWI). The German people felt humiliated and wronged. Hitler tapped into all of this heavy emotion. He promised both prosperity to the pure, beautiful, special German nation — and punishment to those who were trying to destroy it. They saw themselves as the victims, not the aggressors. They saw Nazism as a powerful movement resisting the political Left and protecting the German people from all its evils. They thought all the violence was justified and done for their protection. The Communist Threat
Communism has had quite a spell on the Western world. Just like today, a century ago people would be horror-struck at the mere mention of it.
Sources say that the Communist threat was seen as “an omnipresent force with the power to completely annihilate the German nation.”
People needed to be kept safe from it. They needed firm, decisive, aggressive action against it. https://historyofyesterday.com/what-did-the-average-1930s-german-think-of-the-nazi-regime-cd83724cea5c
Truck convoy leaders hold news conference in Ottawa – February 3, 2022
One psychopath’s insurrection is everyone else’s celebration of truth , love and unity . Could the contrast ever be more clear here ? Read all of Prime Minister in Hiding Justin Trudeau’s vile and offensive comments along with the bribed and bought Canadian MSM about the Canadian working class people’s concerns . Then watch this video . Then decide which side are you on ?
This is a recent scene from the town of Salmon Arm, BC , a small town of 17 000 people. it seemed like half the town came out to salute and support the Great Canadian T-ruckers. Yet PM Justin Trudeau calls this a small fringe minority of White Supremists ?
Ontario MLA Roman Baber correctly states, “Despite inflammatory language from Justin Trudeau in an attempt to distract Canadians, we are winning on science and several Canadian provinces are dropping restrictions.
“The tone and rhetoric from the Prime Minister is outright vicious. My family suffered immensely from the Holocaust, but I do not fear or focus on a handful of idiots. I support the Truckers’ right to peaceful protest and their ability to earn a living. Justin Trudeau is spreading hate to distract from the catastrophe caused by his pandemic response. As the federal government creates unprecedented division, it’s essential that all sides keep the law, keep the peace and the Canadian spirit of love and inclusivity.
“The Truckers came for Trudeau’s job but instead they got Erin O’Toole’s. That is because leaders should not be talking out of both sides of their mouths. Canada’s pandemic response resulted in catastrophic collateral damage to millions of Canadians. A sizeable minority is facing 21st century segregation. Party leaders must be unequivocal in their condemnation of government overreach and have courage to stand up for all Canadians, even when it’s unpopular.
“Last week, Johns Hopkins University released a pre-print meta-analysis of 34 studies regarding the effect of lockdowns on Covid mortality (Lockdowns only reduced COVID deaths by 0.2 per cent, Johns Hopkins study finds | National Post). The meta-analysis suggested that lockdowns reduced mortality by only 0.2%. This is a negligible and statistically insignificant factor compared to the collateral harm of lockdowns…”
“But I do not fear or focus on a handful of idiots”… Indeed, unlike the MSM who are attracted to that handful of idiots like a hive of bees to a bowl of honey and are all too willing to engage in a deceitful attempt to malign the protesters as a whole…
The control freaks/tyrants are pulling out all the stops… Ottawa declares a state of emergency and Global News claims official are suggesting a nationwide insurrection, all the while the restaurants and residence of the city are defying local government orders and opening their doors and supplying food and water to the truckers and farmers.
People are fed up with all the BS that has been shoved at them these last 2 years… and In light of what is happening at the moment the following article by Julius Ruechel and the included essay written by an Ottawa resident is very much worth taking the time to read…Here is a short snippet… “The lies told about the truckers have become the stepping stone to recognizing the lies about everything else that was done over these past two years. And so, the deprogramming has begun… Mayor Jim Watson has now become so desperate that he apparently told the police chief to grow a pair and do something about the protest. The police chief responded that this is not solvable via a policing solution. In other words, the politicians are on their own. Slowly, this is beginning to rehabilitate the police in the eyes of the public as defenders of the community rather than enforcers of arbitrary tyrants. The atmosphere has become much more relaxed. The mask is coming down… local restaurants are starting to defy city orders and reopen in the vicinity of the protest. The authoritarians are increasingly being ignored. A couple of days ago the local tow truck drivers even defied the mayor by announcing that they would not be able to come downtown to tow away trucks because “their drivers all have Omicron” – wink wink, nudge nudge. In other words, the community is rallying around the truckers. Everything the government does now to “crack down harder” only spawns even more resistance and more protests elsewhere around the country.”
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2022/02/honkhonk-postcard-from-truckers-for.html
Freedom Convoy ADDRESS TO THE NATION – Feb.6, 2022 “State of Emergency Update” |
David, I read your article in The Nation, a very good article, not only of the events of Hitler’s rise to power, but also the very relevant events of today that greatly resemble Hitler’s attempt. Trump’s attempt at being our “Ruler” is very similar, remember the words used by Hitler when he started out spewing his rhetoric: Make Germany Great Again !!!, sound a bit familiar to anyone??
John, please provide citation of Hitler ever using that phrase, I doubt you can find one. Besides Trump, do you know who else used a version of that phrase? Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.
Also, please elaborate, what freedom did Trump try and take from you? Did he try and get you fired from your job for not taking an experimental vaccine? Did he try and take more of your earnings via taxes; did he try to federalize elections, pack SCOTUS and end the filibuster to create a one party state? Did he censor anyone or try to compel companies to censor people? Did he demand proof of ‘papers’ via a medical passport? Did he attempt to “other” an entire group of people over their medical status? I can tell you, if he tried to do any of those things, he’s definitely a wannabe tyrant. Thankfully we don’t have an Administration trying to do every single one of those things right now. That would be really scary.
“But I understand, you need your dark conspiracies to explain everything and everyone you don’t agree with. I feel badly for you.” I am glad I could give you a big laugh. We need more of that these days. David, you do not have to feel badly for me. I am happy to hear that this is a labor of love for you. But that still does not answer the question why you seem to trust in almost every government agency except one that takes away food rights. Oh but I realize I will never understand where you are coming from. Nor you me. IMHO you side with the elites and globalists, not the common man. The very same common man who wants food rights. Oh, maybe that is the glitch. If you are a conservative, you cannot possibly be for food rights? A conservative who is for say, raw milk, is an oxymoron? Maybe you think food rights are only for the elites and globalists? I don’t understand why you take the side of the elites and globalists. Because you definitely are. Anyway I am sure this conversation will go nowhere. Thanks anyway.