Two things are clear from all the publicity in the New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania media about Miller’s Biodiversity Farm in Pennsylvania:
1.One individual, from New York, has been sickened with RB51, a bacteria that causes brucellosis;
2.The farm has been quarantined.
More mysterious is how the individual became sick from a pathogen that has supposedly been eradicated. Another question is when the farm might reopen.
Based on an advisory from the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture a year ago, it seems very possible that the illness could have come from a cow that was vaccinated against brucellosis. The PDA at that time advised the many dozens of sellers of raw milk in Pennsylvania to refrain from immunizing their cows against brucellosis.
The PDA referred to “several cases of brucellosis in humans that have been linked by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to consumption of raw dairy products in the Southern and Mid-Atlantic states. In these unusual cases, the Brucella isolated is identical to the strain of bacteria used in the RB 51 vaccine. The news release from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that, ‘the only way to avoid this potential exposure to RB 51 is to drink pasteurized milk.’ “
The PDA added a second option for avoiding exposure to RB 51: discontinue immunizing cows with the Brucella vaccine. “This is especially important if the herd contains Jersey cattle,” the PDA letter said, since all the human infections thus far have “come from vaccinated Jersey cattle.”
Miller’s Biodiversity Farm is not the same as the farm operated by Amos Miller in Pennsylvania. It is owned by Aaron Miller, an unrelated Amish farmer.
According to an email communication from the farm to food club members, the farm has engaged veterinarians to help it track down where on its farm the pathogen may have originated. Presumably, a vaccinated cow that mistakenly made its way into the farm’s herd is among the potential culprits. The farm’s owner indicated that he expects the quarantine to end soon, possibly within days, hopefully with the mystery solved.
David,
There will soon be a ten year anniversary since publication of your book:
Gumpert, DE (2009) Raw Milk Revolution: Behind America’s Emerging Battle over Food Rights.
What is the current status of this “revolution”? How has demand changed? Are there more customers today compared to ten years ago? How has access changed? How has opposition to access changed? How has our scientific knowledge advanced? Do producers have more educational support today? What should be the goals for moving forward with this raw milk revolution into the future?
Besides David, I hope other readers of The Complete Patient Blog will weigh in on some of the questions raised here.
Dr. Heckman. as a proxy for consumption, the Whitehead study looked at raw milk farm licenses in the states which kept accurate records and tracked the number of active licensees (such as by requiring farms to renew their licences each year). There was a 357% increase in number of licences over a 12 yr period from 2005 to 2016. (Table 5 at http://currents.plos.org/outbreaks/article/recent-trends-in-unpasteurized-fluid-milk-outbreaks-legalization-and-consumption/).
This doesn’t take into consideration whether individual farms themselves increased production, but Mark’s quote in the same article indicates that his did:
“In 2006, we were in 400 stores and 8 farmers’ markets and produced about 680,000 gallons of raw milk per year, versus 2016 with 700 stores, 22 farmers’ markets and 1.09 million gallons .”
Great questions Dr Heckman.
I find myself asking many of those same questions. It is my opinion that this information will come from individual raw milk producers. Each producer tracks his consumer data and sale of products over time.
Because the USDA and FDA largely ignore raw milk sales data, there is little national data collected.
As far as vaccination induced Brucellosis, this threat could be controlled just like any naturally acquired Brucellosis. Just use the MRT ( milk ring test ) every few months and any Brucellosis will be detected regardless of origin.
We used to get raw milk and raw butter from Aaron several years ago, and he let my husband join him for a couple milkings to learn more about dairying. Very sweet family, working super hard to provide their greater community with good food, and Aaron was always very generous to share with us what he knew or his experience when we had questions about farming things. I hope their quarantine is over quickly, I know what a nightmare that kind of thing is for a dairy farmer.
A raw milk recall or quarantine is a nightmare. It is the most stressful thing that a raw milk producer can endure.
The bright spot is the sure joy that consumers bring to the producer in the good times.
Let there always be good times. Good times are planned realities.
“Bacteria found in ancient Irish soil halts growth of superbugs—new hope for tackling antibiotic resistance”
https://phys.org/news/2018-12-bacteria-ancient-irish-soil-halts.html
“It seems that part of the answer to this very modern (iatrogenic) problem might lie in the wisdom of the past”. [emphasis in brackets mine]
Indeed, the answer does lie in the “wisdom of the past”… Unfortunately, the researcher, Dr. Gerry Quinn cannot seem to abandon the antagonistic attitude that ultimately led to this modern day problem… When will he realize that his belligerent controlling approach is the problem and not the microbes that are hardwired to respond to it?
sounds like it could be made somehow into a great probiotic
I read that the Brucellosis bacteria can persist in fresh and aged raw cheese and other dairy products. Millers Biodiversity Farm dairy is listed in the Weston A. Price as “Best” for fresh and raw cheese, yogurt, kefir. butter, cream, ice cream, and eggs, Is it possible that the products made before the quarantine can become a source of the infection?
David,
Check your references on Millers Biodiversity Farm. Are you sure its not Amos Millers? The reason I ask is because Millers Biodiversity Farm operates a shipping membership organization just like Amos.
Amos used to call himself Millers Organic until the USDA got up set with him because he did not have an Organic certificate. He then changed the name to something close….biodiversity farm. Ice cream is an illegal product. It can not be made or sold legally in raw form in the USA. WAP promotes Millers products as relayed by Sylvia above.
If I am wrong…please set me straight.
Two different operations:
http://www.millersorganicfarm.com
https://amishbiofarm.com
Hi Mark,
Happy New Year to you and Blaine and the whole family and team at OPDC!
Thanks for weighing in on this. I know you know how difficult this time is as you stated “A raw milk recall or quarantine is a nightmare. It is the most stressful thing that a raw milk producer can endure.
The bright spot is the sure joy that consumers bring to the producer in the good times.
Let there always be good times. Good times are planned realities.”
I want to assure you that David has it right–Aaron Miller (no direct relation to Amos Miller) is the farmer and proprietor of Miller’s Bioviversity Farm. He runs a completely different type of operation than many of the Amish farmers who are being taken advantage of by PMA scams that center around sovereign citizen mentality. Aaron takes great pride in how clean his milk is. In many ways, Aaron is a trailblazer within his community wanting to find areas of commonality and unity with other raw milk producers and agencies.
The Real Food Consumer Coalition (RFCC) has been working with Aaron through this whole process. We are pleased to say the PDA has been a pleasure to work with as we all work to resolve this challenge as quickly as possible for the benefit of everyone involved. Please see our write-up on the experience thus far: A New Day For Raw Milk? https://realfoodcc.com/ (scroll down) We will be updating on the RFCC website (RealFoodCC.com) again today, and in real-time forthcoming.
Not only are we working with Aaron, we are also working with several “off the grid” raw milk farmers to improve testing, acquire business licenses and certifications such as you and the majority of other raw milk producers. This is very exciting as I am sure you will agree.
Something to note: The PDA only quarantined raw “cattle” milk and raw “cattle” related products. All other dairy on the farm (goat, sheep, water buffalo and camel) was cleared for sale from a health standpoint. In fact, should Aaron have chosen to pasteurize his milk, it is our understanding that the quarantine would not apply to pasteurized milk from his farm.
Mark, are things beginning to shift? Will 2019 be the year of greater and safer raw milk access for all who wish that? I sure hope so. I’m tired of feeding my children pet food. And I’m tired of being a criminal for pursuing great food from great farmers. Americans have families to feed! We need to be free to do so.
As you always say, we are embracing farmers and consumers from the west coast to the east coast. Together, we are making a new day for raw milk and other fresh, local farm foods.
Liz Reitzig has it right as well. Aaron Miller and Amos Miller aren’t directly related, and have completely separate farms and different types of operations (aside from fact that each serves a private food club).
Liz and David,
Thank you for setting me straight and let me publically apologize to Aaron Miller for trying his very best and mixing him up with some one else.
Yes…2019 will be a great year for raw milk. Trends are strongly showing continued improvement on risk reduction and consumers are taking notice that the health benefits of raw milk are powerful.
From American Vegetable Grower magazine Dec 2018: “When the Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA) became law, the industry thought that would lessen outbreaks. Instead, we’we had almost 30 Shiga-toxin E. Coli outbreaks since 2009.
How many of the 30 are from prepackaged leafy greens?
From American Vegetable Grower magazine Dec 2018 (page 4): More than 10 years ago, after a similar devastating outbreak in spinach, it raised food safety practices to unprecedented levels and embraced what would become the Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA). Despite those extensive changes, the U.S. had 28 outbreaks of the same deadly pathogen – Shiga-toxin producing E. coli (STEC) – linked to leafy greens between 2009 and 2007.
Correction: 2009 and 2017.
Enlightening.
The leafy greens data reveals much about antibiotic abuse in the USA and how depressed and receptive to powerful pathogens human hosts have become.
Leafy greens didn’t change. Our immune systems and antibiotics did.
Mark, animal poop is getting on leafy greens. Whether the animal is directly pooping on it or it is in the irrigation water, pathogenic E.coli is being spread this way. Prepackaged greens are extremely vulnerable to large amounts of contamination because a small amount can be contaminated and then it is mixed with the rest of the lettuce and then bagged. Now all of it is contaminated. The same dynamic happens with hamburger meat. The unique aspect of the deadly E.coli 0157:H7 is the low infectious dose needed to make someone extremely ill. My personal opinion is that selling prepackaged greens should be banned. Everyone will adapt to going back to washing a head of lettuce or whatever greens they want to eat.
This is what happens when the “kill step” for killing pathogenic E.coli is not done correctly.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/cdc-says-disgusting-conditions-led-to-marine-boot-camp-ecoli-outbreak-2018-10
As usual Mary, there is a lack of certainty and a lot of speculation with respect to the so-called outbreak you referenced…
What can be guaranteed however, is that armed forces personnel’s bodies are the most violated… they are lined up like a herd of cattle and injected with all forms of toxic concoction, namely vaccines, that screw up their immune systems (some more then others) and leave them vulnerable to infection…
When that recent California romaine lettuce recall was implemented in late November, and because my wife had made her order online, the grocery store notified us a week latter that the heads of lettuce that were included in her order was subject to the recall. We were advised to return them and that we would receive a refund. Needless to say the lettuce was completely gone by that time…
I accompanied my wife to the hospital doctors Christmas party and I along with two other individuals including a doctor ordered our steak rare to the dismay of many who sat around the table… Fortunately the chef happily accommodated our request despite ministry of health recommended guidelines for cooking meat. When I go to a restaurant and order a burger rare they turn me down, when I cook burgers at home I cook mine rare.
Happy New Year
One of the 2019 goals ( projects ) that are proposed at RAWMI will be a focus on private grant writing. It is my hope that with solid grant funding, some of the really important efforts being made for consumer access can be supported.
Interstate commerce, continued legalization of raw milk in all states, strong standards for raw milk production and farmer use of ” on farm rapid testing for coliforms and pathogens ” are all on the agenda.
Clearly, training and education for both farmers and consumer/customers will be needed.
There are many very conscious grant sources that have emerged as a result of the global climate change initiatives and gut biome meltdowns.
These are just some of the proposals that RAWMI is reviewing for 2019.
Saving sustainable, regenerative farms and connecting those farms to consumers is a high priority.
If you give any amount of thought to our chronic health problems in America….they are driven by loss of gut biome. That means living whole foods that both feed and seed the gut.
Those foods come from farms and not processors. They are “gut buddy” foods and not “shelf life” foods.
One another point:
Does anyone have advice for me. I am trying my best to figure out why most dairymen would rather die than change ? Over the last 10 years I have tried and tried to convince conventional dairies to collaborate together in order to control supply and assert some power over prices.
It is a non starter. Instead, these very good people quietly exit markets, sell their cows and plant almonds or simply fade away. No will to fight as a group and truly control their destinies.
I have heard dairymen say that dairymen act much like a “herd” and only do what others do. Individually they say one thing but they will not act in a group to make change happen.
It still makes no sense to me. When faced with certain loss of farms and livelihoods, where is the fight and the will to gather forces? The real power comes from the cow….processors don’t have milk…farmers do, yet, farmers have no will to exert this power.
They won’t even show for a meeting to consider good ideas.
Any ideas why this is predominantly the American dairy culture?
I am really interested to know why this is happening ?
Mary,
We are living in a biome called earth. It is a place that has consequences for cheating and lying to nature. When we screw with Bactera they adapt and become fearless in their ability and innovative evolutions to over come any threat.
Antibiotics, preservatives, GMOs, roundup you name it….we have messed with bacteria and they don’t play fair. They win and always have for 3.5 billion years. Now us stupid as hell humans are paying the price.
We are symbiots made up of bacteria in a frame work of human looking tissues. But we don’t have any respect for this evolutionary reality.
The loss of gut mucosal linings make the intestinal tissue attachment for shigatoxin reactions very real. Hence….why low counts of ecoli 0157h7 can cause real problems in some but not all hosts. Our gut mucosal barrier linings are missing or weak.
No….I disagree. Animals are not pooping on our food. The poop created by CAFO GMO fed, antibiotic fed animals is everywhere. It is in the wind the air and even in humans.
That’s why the official Marine Boot Camp report suggested that not having toilet paper and filthy conditions were part of the illness picture.
Undercooked ground beef is clearly a part of this story, just as it was at Jack in the Box 30 years ago.
We must stop blaming animal poop. We need to look directly in the mirror and see the vector. It is us….our medical system, Pharma FDA policies and cheap food policies that encourage weak immune systems, highly processed foods, gmos, antibiotic abuse that brought us all to this point. We live in a biome absolutely buried in bacteria, viruses, archaea, we have attacked this biome and now we are paying.
These microscopic life forms were here 3 billion years before us. Yet, they formed us and live in us. We are symbiots with them.
Fighting them means killing ourselves. Find peace with bacteria and thrive. Fight them and surely they will be the last to eat and it will be us on their plate.
Mark, it is actually scary how little you know about pathogenic E.coli, including source and how it is spread. You need to do a little research.
I’ll get you started.
https://www.avma.org/News/Journals/Collections/Documents/javma_221_8_1122.pdf
According to the article Mary McG-Martin linked to, “Case control studies of sporadic cases of E coli O157:H7 infection in the United States, Canada, and Europe have identified eating undercooked ground beef, visiting farms, and handling animals on the farm as principal risk factors for infection.”
If visiting farms and handling animals on the farm, as well as exposure to cow manure, are such risk factors, ranchers, ranch families, and CAFO personnel should be among the highest risk populations for E coli O157:H7. I live in cattle ranching country and know ranch families. Yet I never hear of nor read in the media about that demographic getting pathogenic E. coli. I think there’s more to it than mere exposure.
I and my wife should have been dead years ago if that is the case Lynn_M., as much manure dust and such as we have eaten over the years dealing with cattle,sheep and goats.
Lynn, remember the young and the old are most at risk for an E.coli infection. I belong to a private Facebook group where over 170 moms belong who have had children who developed HUS. In the past two years, many of the ill children were contaminated after expose to an animal: grandparents ranch, show cows, county fairs, or petting zoo. Our group began 5 years ago and many have commented in the last few years how many infections were from animal contact, not food.
Mary, ranchers have families that live on the ranch. Their children, even very young ones, are exposed to the manure dust blowing in the wind, to what gets tramped around the grounds and buildings on boots, and they even have contact with the cattle. But they’re not getting sick despite all of that exposure. I submit their microbiome has immunized them to the pathogens you shrink in fear from. The answer to E. coli risk is in building up the wimpy microbiome that so many Americans have.
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Mary,
Read your own link. It is everywhere. Dogs, water, humans, deer, sheep,
…..when the FDA investigates romain lettuce and leafy greens they don’t find poop in the fields. It is spread via water and even dust in the air.
I do not follow your logic. Your link does not support your argument.
Mark, I know you are not mentally disabled and can read. How does the water get contaminated? Let me help you, animal poop, which most likely comes from cows. How did E.coli 0157:H7 get in OPDC milk for your 3 outbreaks…..hmmm…cow poop.
You started RAWI and know all of this. Why do you play dumb?
I must say you do give me some good quotes to use when I speak at conferences on the subject of raw milk and E.coli 0157:H7.
actually, Mary McG-Martin, the MOST likely source of excrement on vegetables, is from human beings … crapping in the fields same as they do in the 3rd world shitholes from which they fled/ emigrated . invaded Californicatia.
Of course I don’t expect you to take THAT factor in to actuarial tables for risk of contracting the bad kinds of E. Coli. No : you mind is made up and facts don’t make a difference to the obssessive personality
just keep on riding your little hobbyhorse round your fantastic carousel of IL-logic, in a world where raw milk is The all-time bogeyman, and every other factor is irrelevant.
have you noticed that whilst you’ve been on yr decade-long rant, REAL MILK consumption has gone up by 100 times, yet instances of those same people getting sick from it, are all but statistically-invisible. One single factor proveably has made that difference ; RAWMI training for the producers
Mary, I do not think there are very many cattle in the part of California where the majority of greens are grown.
In the 2006 spinach outbreak they found the matching fingerprint in a wild pig poop.
Despite lots of government funding and training program efforts going into improving the food safety record of leafy greens, tends are not going in the desired direction. Contrast that record with fresh unprocessed raw drinking milk where the food safety record is improving in assocation with efforts coming mostly from NGOs such as the Farm to Consumer Foundation and Raw Milk Institute. Recent Trends in Unpasteurized Fluid Milk Outbreaks, Legalization, and Consumption in the United States
http://www.rawmilkinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Recent-Trends-in-Unpasteurized-Fluid-Milk-Outbreaks-Legalization-and-Consumption-in-the-United-States-–-PLOS-Currents-Outbreaks.pdf
Trends in raw milk contaminated with pathogenic E.coli have not changed since 2005. Maybe for Campy, but not E.coli.
Have you specifically followed raw milk E.coli 0157:H7 outbreaks? Just like lettuce, they continue.
2016 had 3 outbreaks
2018 had 2 outbreaks
From the data I have collected since 2005, 2007 and 2017 did not have a documented raw milk outbreak involving pathogenic E.coli.
Why Lettuce Keeps Making Us Sick
https://modernfarmer.com/2013/07/why-lettuce-keeps-making-us-sick/
Apart from these illnesses primarily affecting immunocompromised individuals, I’m inclined to think that it’s the “kill step” or chemicals used to wash and disinfect the lettuce that’s in large part what is responsible for making people ill. The more we use these toxic chemicals the more dogged the problem.
The chemicals such as chlorine used to wash and disinfect the lettuce can disrupt the commensal bacteria in a person’s digestive track, opening the door to opportunistic illness causing microbes such as E. coli O157:H7. Chlorine is indigestible, and can cause severe stomach upset, as well as reactions ranging from mild cramping to diarrhea and hospitalization.
As usual, our antagonistic modus operandi for dealing with perceived harmful microbes is causing more harm then good…
Ken,
I appreciate that you continue to comment on this blog in a constructive and informative voice.This comment is right on point. The basic assumptions about “food safety” are what is making food production unsafe, all the way from the soil to the consumer.
Mary,
I challenge you to invite me to come speak at one of your anti raw milk speaking events. The data, the modern testing technologies the set of conditions that are specifically utilized for raw milk production. Consumers should get a balanced educational exposure.
One of the elements that you are failing to appreciate is the missing mucosal lining in modern 1st world consumers guts. This missing or thinned internal mucosal lining are part of how and why shigatoxin reactions occur.
More importantly, raw milk builds this protective mucosal lining.
Mark, if raw milk builds this protective mucosal lining, then why are children getting ill from raw milk?
“Getting ill” means the child is detoxing years and years of accumulated toxicity in the body. I’m sure that happense whether the person is a baby or standard vaccinated/conventional food-poisoned kid. The excellent protective mucus created when you take in warm fresh milk or chilled fermented milk works with your body to remove embedded toxicity, so dealing with flus & colds may be the “illnesses” needed to start regenerating & rebuilding. But you seem to follow conventional wisdom, and what I’m saying is just witch-doctor-y foolishness. Yes and it works. Keep us posted with more FoodSafetyNews updates please.
In the following article Dr. Sherri Tenpenny makes reference to an article entitled, “New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Micro and Nano-contamination” that was published on January 23, 2017, in the peer-reviewed journal, the International Journal of Vaccines & Vaccination.
https://vaxxter.com/vaccine_contaminants_nano_cancer/
Contaminated food and FCLO are the least of our worries…
She states, “Here is a snapshot from this must-read, full-text article:
“A team of scientists in Italy decided to examine batches of vaccines, looking for contaminants not listed as ingredients. 44 types of vaccines manufactured in Italy and France were analyzed using an Environmental Electron Scanning Microscope. This method was chosen because the matter can be separated into either organic debris (called aggregates) or inorganic debris (called clusters). The identified particles were counted three times by three different operators, with an error rate of less than 10%. They found inorganic contaminants in every single one.
“The presence of micro- and nanosized particulate matter, composed of inorganic chemicals, metals and combination elements whose presence is inexplicable.
“The particles are foreign bodies, and can produce a chronic inflammatory reaction because the particles cannot be degraded. The tiny nanoparticles can enter the cell nuclei and interact with cellular DNA.
“The inorganic particles are neither biocompatible nor biodegradable, that means they are biopersistent. They can induce immediate effects or the effects may be delayed for a long time after administration.
“Indentifying Aluminum and NaCl is obvious because they are commonly used in vaccines and they are declared components, but the other materials are not supposed to be in vaccines or in any other injectable drug.
“In most circumstances, the combinations detected are very odd. They have no technical use, cannot be found in any material handbook and look like form randomly, for example, when waste is burnt. In any case, whatever their origin, they should not be present in any injectable, let alone in vaccines given to infants.
“While the entire article was disturbing, I found this little paragraph to be the most eye-popping of all:
“Feligen, the only veterinary vaccine tested, proved to be the only sample free from inorganic contamination, while Allergoid generates a layer of inorganic salts [aluminum] so thick that it does not allow to detect other particulate contaminants.
Why would a shot used for allergies (Allergoid) be loaded with aluminum, which is known to cause allergies?”
Gordon,
Your observation that human waste is a mostly likely or significant risk to field vegetables is based in science. Back in 1997 I was awarded a distinction for being the first farmer in the USA to develop and implement a fully audited 3rd party food safety plan. It was for apples being sold to Odwalla post their ecoli crisis.
The major risk that my Phd auditor considered was human feces being deposited in the field verses the out house systems provided for workers.
Apple trees do provide some sneak away privacy that vegetable crops don’t provide, however, the risk of human waste can not be disregarded in fresh vegetables. Hand washing practices are not universal across all cultures.
Hey Mark, I bet you dollars to donuts that those cultures that do not practice routine hand washing are mega “symbiots” (symbionts)…
With respect to your analogy in a previous comment that bacteria “don’t play fair”, I must disagree… It’s humans that are in fact not playing fair by using unnatural methods that defy symbiosis and the rules of nature.
By the way, what about seagull shit???
When I do field work literally hundreds of seagulls hover overhead looking for an opportunity to pick up, and swallow whole (while in flight), worms insects, snakes, mice and small sparrows etc. Indeed, and when they are hovering overhead and swooping around the tractor to be first for that chance to latch onto a meal they regularly relieve themselves indiscriminately depositing their feces on land, tractor and farmer… In fact I have had seagull shit land on my knee, lap, shoulder and rim of my cap.
Consider the following two articles,
“At the annual ICAAC meeting in Chicago, the largest infectious-disease conference in the United States, Dr. Patrice Nordmann of the Hopital de Bicetre near Paris disclosed results of a small study that looked for resistant bacteria in the feces of seagulls landing on Miami Beach in Florida. During April 2010, they collected 52 stool samples and found within them 83 isolates of gut bacteria such as E. coli.”
https://www.wired.com/2011/09/seagulls-resistant-poop/
“E.coli. Cattle carry E. coli 0157:H7. When birds peck on cow manure, the E. coli go right through the birds and the bird droppings can land on or in a food or water supply.”
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php
Boy oh boy, these germaphobes certainly have their work cut out for them. One has to wonder whether or not they fantasize about living in a glass bubble…
Zoonosis: Zoonosis is another name for a zoonotic disease. This type of disease passes from an animal or insect to a human. Some don’t make the animal sick but will sicken a human.
Zoonotic diseases range from minor short-term illness to a major life-changing illness. Certain ones can even cause death.
Notice the Campylobacter, Salmonella and E.coli are on the list.https://www.healthline.com/health/zoonosis
Also, Where do STEC (Shiga Toxin E.coli) come from?
STEC live in the guts of ruminant animals, including cattle, goats, sheep, deer, and elk. The major source for human illnesses is cattle. STEC that cause human illness generally do not make animals sick. Other kinds of animals, including pigs and birds, sometimes pick up STEC from the environment and may spread it.
How are these infections spread?
Infections start when you swallow STEC—in other words, when you get tiny (usually invisible) amounts of human or animal feces in your mouth. Unfortunately, this happens more often than we would like to think about. Exposures that result in illness include consumption of contaminated food, consumption of unpasteurized (raw) milk, consumption of water that has not been disinfected, contact with cattle, or contact with the feces of infected people.https://stopfoodborneillness.org/pathogen/stec-shiga-toxin-producing-e-coli/
So, STEC lives in the guts of ruminant animals and is spread in their poop. This is how it passes to humans. An infected human can then pass it to another human. This is referred to as a secondary infection.https://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/food-poisoning-resources/secondary-infections-in-e-coli-o157h7-outbreaks/
You still haven’t explained the MECHANISM of how shiga causes illness in the “victim.” All you said was “enters the human etc” & you stopped with that. I love science so don’t worry about using big words. Anyways, I say you should use them to help cleanse the body by digesting dead cells etc. How in the world am I living with my own campylobacter? I am a damn good incubator with my raw fermented meat & dairy lifestyle. My poop-infested eggs have all this awesome e.Coli & salmonella. When I crack them I dip them in the egg whites. Please, more science links, I love it.
Mark, I bet you dollars to donuts that those cultures that do not practice routine hand washing are mega “symbiots” (symbionts)…
With respect to your analogy in a previous comment that bacteria “don’t play fair”, I must disagree… It’s humans that are in fact not playing fair by using unnatural methods that defy symbiosis and the rules of nature.
By the way, what about seagull shit???
When I do field work literally hundreds of seagulls hover overhead looking for an opportunity to pick up, and swallow whole (while in flight), worms insects, snakes, mice and small sparrows etc. Indeed, and when they are hovering overhead and swooping around the tractor to be first for that chance to latch onto a meal they regularly relieve themselves indiscriminately depositing their feces on land, tractor and farmer… In fact I have had seagull shit land on my knee, lap, shoulder and rim of my cap.
Consider the following two articles,
“At the annual ICAAC meeting in Chicago, the largest infectious-disease conference in the United States, Dr. Patrice Nordmann of the Hopital de Bicetre near Paris disclosed results of a small study that looked for resistant bacteria in the feces of seagulls landing on Miami Beach in Florida. During April 2010, they collected 52 stool samples and found within them 83 isolates of gut bacteria such as E. coli.”
https://www.wired.com/2011/09/seagulls-resistant-poop/
“E.coli. Cattle carry E. coli 0157:H7. When birds peck on cow manure, the E. coli go right through the birds and the bird droppings can land on or in a food or water supply.”
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php
Boy oh boy, these germaphobes certainly have their work cut out for them. One has to wonder whether or not they fantasize about living in a glass bubble…
case on point in the real world, last year : being = contamination of the water supply in White Rock British Columbia with e. coli. The only possible explanation they could come up with, was … pigeon poop in the reservoir. 100,000 human beings knowingly exposed to e. coli, but all the Health Authorities did, was = issue a ‘boil water alert’. Meanwhile distributing REAL MILK here, is a gaol-able offence
TENNESSEE: ILLEGAL TO DRINK MILK FROM YOUR OWN COW
https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/1/10/2019/tennessee-illegal-to-drink-milk-from-your-own-cow?fbclid=IwAR3iCSRGD2bT0HU2E0DLn80tgMhV0DOW8oXyYRLntINUa1WL3W2wMllJ2Ow
Hershares became legal in Tennessee in 2009.
2013 McBee Dairy E.coli 0157:H7 raw milk outbreak: 9 ill, 5 hospitalized, 3 developed HUS. Ages between 1-7.
2018 French Broad Farm E.coli 0157:H7 raw milk outbreak: 7 ill, 7 hospitalized and 4 developed HUS. All children less than 4 years of age.
Over the last 5 years in Tennessee, 7 children have developed HUS after drinking raw milk contaminated with E.coli 0157:H7. A two year old child was left very damaged from the French Broad outbreak last year. Seizures left him with permanent brain damage. He has to learn how to walk again, but issues with one side of his body not working is heartbreaking. All because a family was advised by a doctor who practices alternative health to give their son raw milk because it is healthier.
Are you saying that the child was not treated with antibiotics & viral medications that led to the seizure/brain damage? E.coli 0157:H7 seems to be man-made, so were chemicals used in the cleaning of the milk’s tanks or teats of animals? But that aside, if the specific E.coli you mention was inside that specific milk, explain the mechanism of how bacteria that enters the body creates the medical condition you just described. If the baby got “sick”(cleansing of system with raw nutrients), did the parents go “convential” and let the doctors treat their child with poisons(drugs) such as Mercury-laden Thimerosal? Or did they use the antibiotic Cipro? Mercury-containing drugs can cause kidney and/or neurological damage(i.e. “seizures). Cipro is not nice to your kidneys. HUS-like symptoms are similar to the “side effects” of mercury. Since you’re a researcher in your own right, let me know what you find. In the meantime I’ll finish sipping my fermented raw e.Coli/poop-rich Amish milk. 16 years of drinking this dangerous secretion after 26 years of never touching milk…don’t know how I do it.
Ken,
You are so right….it is mankind that broke the rules. We are mega symbiots for sure.
Mary….yes….ecoli pathogens are hosted by ruminants. But then they are spread all over the place and hosted by everything else also.
I hope that makes you feel better. A big glass of organic raw milk Kefir will really make you feel super!! Billions of biodiverse bacteria, prebiotic sugars, 2500 undenatured proteins, bioavailable minerals, active enzymes and all sorts of other goodies only found in raw milk. These living food elements build that gut mucosal barrier and protect against pathogen invasion. That’s the science.
By the way…..we now have tests to reduce pathogen risk to literally zero. See CibusDX.com for cheap, quick 30 min pathogen tests on farm.
Mary,
The Tennessee law to allow cow shares and ignore raw milk standards in my opinion was an error and mistake.
This was an act by those fighting for food freedom and blindly not understanding the implications of not fully appreciating the two kinds of raw milk.
McBee came to RAWMI when I reached out to her when she had the outbreak. She knew nothing of coliforms or testing. The illnesses blindsided her!
She received some mentoring and Ed Shank helped her to establish an on farm lab. From that time onward she had no more problems and reported to us that she had very very clean milk.
The freedom to produce raw milk comes with it a very critical requirement for training and understanding the production practices and testing standards required for ultra low risk milk.
Freedom comes with a heavy responsibility.
Colorado did it right. Cow shares with an organization that had standards and testing. RMAC was the right move.
A Free for all “Cow Shares” was not the right move. There should have been an RMAC in Tennessee.
Mark, we can finally agree on something. A free for all with unregulated herdshares is a bad idea. Sally Fallon Morell is to blame for this. Her goal has been to make raw milk legal in every state, ideally through unregulated herdshares.
the viper = M McG-M = gives herself away … insinuating aspersion for no good reason but to drive a wedge and divide very friends. say what you want about Sally Fallon lately, ( as ignoramus re the oil ? from fermented fish guts ) she pioneered the Campaign for REAL MILK from which millions of people now benefit.
The law which legalized herdshares in TN was passed in 2009 — before RAWMI, before wide-spread recognition that there are two types of raw milk. Before farmers learned that there is a different way of doing things than what they learned from their parents and grandparents.
It’s time for that TN law to be updated to include standards for raw milk production, including farm licensing, bacterial testing, and inspection.
It is also time for TN farmers to take a close look at RAWMI Common Standards as an example of what to aim as far as milk quality.
Vera,
Amen. And if not RAWMI then use RMAC. Use something!!
Nothing does not work at all: It is the rope to hang ourselves.