Back at the start of his campaign for president, in September 2016, Donald Trump argued that the government could save well over $1 trillion by doing away with many food safety and environmental regulations. The campaign’s web site stated: ““The FDA Food Police… dictate how the federal government expects farmers to produce fruits and vegetables and even dictates the nutritional content of dog food….The rules govern the soil farmers use, farm and food production hygiene, food packaging, food temperatures and even what animals may roam which fields and when. It also greatly increased inspections of food ‘facilities,’ and levies new taxes to pay for this inspection overkill. My plan will embrace the truth that people flourish under a minimum government burden,”
His administration seems to have come full circle from that grandiose vision on food regulation; the arguments against the food police came down from his web site within a few days, and now the administration is giving full reign to the food regulators via a federal court action designed to take down raw dairy farmers and the hundreds of private food clubs they serve around the country.
Most immediately, two prominent raw dairy farmers, Amos Miller and Aaron Miller, unrelated Pennsylvania producers of raw dairy and other naturally produced food, along with the many food clubs they serve around the country, are squarely in the sights of the newly emboldened food police.
The Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, William M. McSwain, issued a press release a few days ago announcing a civil suit against Amos Miller of Miller’s Organic Farm, boasting that the suit is the first of its kind against a farm serving private food clubs. “This is believed to be the first-ever suit of its kind where FSIS (The Department of Agriculture’s Food Safety and Inspection Services) is seeking an injunction against a so-called ‘private membership association’ farm business to enforce food safety laws,” the Justice Department press release bragged.
Amos Miller’s farm is probably the largest single farm that supplies raw milk and on-farm-slaughtered meat to dozens of food clubs around the country.
In its press release, the Justice Department affirmed its intention to take out private food clubs: “We will not allow commercial sellers to ignore the rule of law, make up their own sets of rules, and attempt to hide behind a private-membership-association structure in an effort to thwart federal laws.”
The action against Amos Miller follows up on a series of actions by Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York targeting Aaron Miller, including a temporary quarantine of his Pennsylvania farm late last year, that has nearly bankrupted the farmer. He has had a GoFundMe campaign going for the last few weeks, seeking $15,000 to help buy bottling equipment so he can qualify for a Pennsylvania raw milk bottling permit.
According to the GoFundMe campaign, “The farmer has been struggling financially and needs more orders to pay for this machine. However, without the machine, he cannot take on new customers. It’s a catch 22….Miller’s Biodiversity Farm has been under intense scrutiny by government agencies, as have many farmers who sell raw dairy. Although these government interactions have the goal of protecting consumers, they have cost the farmer dearly. He has lost almost $100,000 in sales while also incurring many unplanned expenses and extra work.”
As of the start of this week, he had raised more than $20,000, in excess of his $15,000 goal.
In its highly targeted legal action against Amos Miller, the Trump administration is going where even the two previous administrations, of Barack Obama and George W. Bush, had pulled back. While those administrations pushed anti-raw-milk agendas via the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, they avoided possible legal actions against private food clubs. The federal nervousness over dumping on private food clubs intensified when two states, Wisconsin and Minnesota, unsuccessfully targeted dairy farmers serving food clubs (Vernon Hershberger and Alvin Schlangen) via criminal indictments in 2013 and 2014. The farmers were acquitted in jury trials.
Interestingly, the new federal case is designed to avoid the possibility of a jury trial, and the risk that ordinary citizens might acquit Amos Miller and negate the government campaign. The feds have done that by making the action against Amos Miller a civil action, seeking an injunction against Miller’s distribution to private food clubs. That means the case will be heard by federal judges rather than by a jury of his peers; under the Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, only criminal defendants accused of a felony are entitled to a jury trial.
While there has been little precedent in the area of private food clubs, federal judges who have ruled in such cases have sided with the government, as they do on nearly any case where prosecutors can throw in the term “food safety.”
What that means in the case against Amos Miller is that, while Miller can’t be jailed for any alleged offenses, he can be targeted with huge financial penalties, which could have the effect of forcing him out of business, and leaving the private food clubs without a source for their precious food. Thousands of families depend on the raw dairy products produced by Amos Miller’s farm and other small raw dairies to help counter auto-immune conditions and otherwise strengthen their immune systems. These are people such as Daial, who in a comment on this blog today explains how her autistic daughter benefited from raw camel milk. That and other raw dairy could soon be unavailable to food clubs if the administration succeeds in its suit against Amos Miller.
Trump is not your friend. His only friends are the mega huge CAFO operations , greed and $$$$$$$.
For all of you that voted for him, the coma is over. It is wake up time.
One look at what he eats says it all about how his brain works.
Diet Coke and McDonalds or a bucket of KFC.
Think “gut brain” guys.
It’s going to get really ugly.
for all you who voted against him, Donald Mr Trump is now the PRESIDENT of the Republic. Accept the reality … or, let stress eat you up for another 2 years
he won’t run in 2020. He’s made his point. He’s had his fun.
to all you who boast about being the enemy of PRESIDENT TRUMP …. spend you time productively … see if you can find a better candidate than you did last time
Watson, I’ll reprint something I wrote earlier today on Facebook in response to a couple of guys whom I thought were in favor of food rights, but who took me to task for criticizing Trump. They also argued that the Justice Department action wasn’t really new, because the USDA has been after Amos Miller about meat sales; therefore, this action might “only” involve meat and not dairy:
“You guys are amazingly adept at putting a positive spin on terrible news. As for your suggestion that I only wrote this because of Trump, I’ve been writing about federal and state efforts to intrude on food freedom for a dozen years, under Democrats and Republicans. I made something about Trump in particular because he is the first, and only, president to have made a commitment to de-fang the federal regulators, except that now he is doing the exact opposite. As to your suggestion that he is only going after meat, do you really think that when the prosecutors go before the judge in the case, they’re going to say, “Your honor, we want to limit Mr. Miller’s sales of meat products, but we are okay with him distributing raw milk products to his food clubs.” If you think that, I’ve got a few things I’d like to sell you. The press release is very clear: ” This is believed to be the first-ever suit of its kind where FSIS is seeking an injunction against a so-called ‘private membership association’ farm business to enforce food safety laws.” The term “enforce food safety laws” is code for limiting or eliminating sales of whatever the regulators want to eliminate, and the press release specifically discusses a case several years ago where regulators in California found listeria in milk from Miller’s farm, and sought to connect it to the illnesses/death of two elderly individuals. The connection didn’t hold because the individuals were likely very sick before they came into contact with the listeria, but the regulators have always blamed Miller.
Finally, this is a new action, filed within the last few weeks. Amos Miller has been the target of FDA and USDA inspections and such for a decade, but never have any of them resulted in a specific court action to limit his ability to serve the food clubs he supplies. Why? We’ll never know, but there’s a case to be made that the regulators didn’t want to get into the gray area of challenging private food clubs. The press release is clear that the regulators are now anxious to challenge Miller’s right to supply the food clubs with any food the regulators decide violates ‘food safety laws.’ Hopefully Miller’s lawyers will have a more defiant attitude than you guys.”
MICHAEL SCHMIDT A TESTING GROUND?
This sounds so similar to Michael Schmidt’s case in Ontario (Canada) which started many years ago and the harassment resulted in it becoming a criminal offence to sell or distribute raw milk — only in Canada, believe me, government is so conservative on evidence-based natural health.
Michael really set them off when he got around them legally, by doing it similar to what is happening in many parts of the States, as a cowshare. They then stepped up their game with something (a trial?? don’t think so) that would not fly in the U.S. courts, resulting in the Criminal laws over a year ago.
Love him or hate him, but has anyone stepped up to fill Ajanous shoes for the fight for raw milk.
There is a history of this in So California. Alta Dena Dairy can tell the story (1985?).. Police came in with guns once for a Venice / Santa Monicas COOP.
I’ve always seen the Reagan admin as the beginning of the new cold war era. Clamping down on people having the power of knowledge has only accelerated, and is at full force now. Some of the best research over the decades had filtered into people’s lives — and the 60s and 70s showed that in abundance.
Mcafee I dont like your politics but I have to agree with you on this one. Buts lets get real. Every President in my lifetime has done the same thing. The next President will probably be just as bad if not worse. The biggy for me is his betrayal of Andrew Jackson portrait on his White House office wall. AJ would be ashamed of Trump. Im getting there.
“Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned.” Milton Friedman
Here is the problem in a nutshell.
All of us thinking people try and rationalize Trump. We try to understand him. Then….he changes his position and had no rationale reason for doing so.
When the final math is done, you will see that Trump says whatever’s best for “his moment”. Not mine, not ours, not our countries… his moment. All about him. Right now he is trying his best to maneuver out of a Gordian knot. He is in so deep he can’t lie himself out of cold hard facts. Muellers report has got him crapping his nylon golfing pants. He is praying for redaction gods to save him.
I actually blame State regulators for the Millers troubles. If the state had some spine they would have required him to become permitted years ago.
” … us thinking people” ? That’s rich!! I’m guessing by that, you mean = folks like Mark McAffee = who cannot figure out if the child in the womb is a human being? Studied ignoramuses ? [ ignorami, for those sticklers for proper Latin ]
I dare you to go see the movie “UNplanned” = the testimony of a woman who worked for Planned Parenthood, changed her opinion based on the FACTS of the horror she witnessed, then courageously told the nation what is really going on inside that business. Get more and better information re this topic, then see if you can muster the integrity to think about it … REALLY think about it, rather than turn off your mind, mouthing your stupifying commie slogans.
I’ll tell you now, what we’ll see “when the final math is done, …” : the number of babies carved to pieces by artificial abortions, started downward, drastically, the day Donald Trump took office … he’s done more for the Pro-Life cause than any of the others who held that office, ever did.
David Gumpert : your article re Trump’s “Reichstag moment”* was interesting = but it is better categorized as “nothing so useless it cannot at least be used as a bad example” * OpEd News 2/10/2018 … the paranoia of the lefties, rendered to text.
the window of time for such a tactic by PRESIDENT Trump passed, the minute Mr Mueller publicized his conclusions re “Russian Interference in the election’. From what I gather over the internet, was there much more to all that noise, than just ‘hints and allegations’ ?
Is the visceral hatred for Supreme Leader Trump, so fulsome there in the Beltway, that you’ll now double-down on your prophesying?
coming from a guy = you = with your credentials = the notion that the President of the US of A truly controls what the Federal Reserve does, is laughable. Donald Trump is merely a hand-puppet for powers much more sinister than Americans are allowed to know. an obvious tyrant like Josep Stalin Chairman Mao, is no longer necessary, since their control of the country is so utterly pervasive.
If you’re suggesting that Trump muffed his possible “Reichstag moment,” or had it muffed for him by unseen “sinister powers,” you are way premature. The Mueller report is full of documentation about Trump’s efforts to misuse executive power (including firing Mueller to sabotage the special prosecutor investigation), but the reality, as one columnist put it today, is that Trump continues to sleep in the White House, instead of a federal prison cell (thanks in good part to a Justice Department edict that a sitting president, alone among Americans, is above the law, cannot be prosecuted).
If you’ll remember, I said in my original article that history doesn’t repeat itself exactly. Hard as Trump has tried to pull off his own “Reichstag moment” (of assuming dictatorial powers, like Hitler did in 1933), he’s been constrained by America’s strong institutions (like an independent judiciary) and the unwillingness of subordinates to do the dirtiest of his dirty work. Those subordinates who refused to carry out orders (like firing Mueller) weren’t being patriotic so much as being fearful of eventual prosecution by the independent judiciary, and service time in jail (like unfortunate Trump saps like former campaign manager Paul Manafort and personal lawyer Michael Cohen, who now sit in jail cells).
No, Watson, if we’ve learned anything, there is no “deep state” controlling the U.S. of the sort you and others so vividly imagine. The U.S. is fortunate to have strong institutions, like an independent judiciary and law enforcement tradition (like the FBI). Those institutions have been seriously stressed by Trump & his motley crew of treasonous Republicans, who will continue trying to tear them apart.
After the Mueller report, which paints a portrait of a totally corrupt and lawless regime, Trump is still standing strong. It is only the fifth or sixth inning for him. He has a long ways to go, to continue undermining American democratic institutions, and achieve the vision you lay out–to be another Mao or Stalin. Just remember, it was a direct descendant of Stalin’s secret police (Mr. Putin), who is Trump’s main benefactor. Trump has done more to Make Russia Great Again than anyone around. The vision is for the two of them to rule the world, in Stalin’s image.
Ironically, Trump has an even stronger incentive to stay on as America’s absolute ruler, according to the Mueller report. It points out that Trump can be prosecuted after leaving office for crimes committed during his presidency. So in reality, the only thing that keeps Trump out of endless court proceedings against him is being president. You can bet your life, he’ll try to stay there for the rest of his living days.
contrary to your article of faith : ‘there is no deep state’, Carrol Quigley tutored us otherwise. A professor at Georgetown U. he was given access to its inner workings, then set out the shape of that secret power in his book Tragedy & Hope. And that was 4 decades ago!
perhaps you’re too young to have read it, Mr Gumpert? I strongly recommend this MOST important work for those concerned with what goes on … it’ll disabuse you as to the reality of the Punch&Judy pantomime staged known as = “the news”. it certainly helped Prof. Quigley’s student – one, Bill Clinton – grasp the landscape of politics in America
President Trump did say that he would look at and change burdensome regulations and he did so .The Federal Meat Inspection Act of 1906 was passed by Congress and amended several times over the years since .The inspection law does not make exceptions for private membership clubs .Presidents Trump,Obama or George Washington would never recommend changing this law .We should all be pleased that in this country the laws pertaining to food safety are followed .If the law is to be changed it must be presented to congress for a vote .Contact your local representative and ask them to submit a bill to change the law .Dont blame the federal workers for doing their job.Also please stop blaming President Donald Trump for every problem that comes down the pike ,he did not create all these situations he has only been in office for two years .
I don’t think he’s blaming trump so much as pointing out that trump claimed he was for the little guy during the campaign and once again has proven he really doesn’t care. It was all about getting the vote for trump, not about keeping govt small.
Kathryn, This action/desire by food regulators to accelerate court action against private food clubs has been in the works by the unelected powers that be long before Trump came onto the political scene. Hence the reason why I stated to David, “Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned.” NGOs exert considerable pressure in Washington and it was because of their influence that Obama was not able to fulfill his election promise to label GMOs… and not only did he not fulfill that promise but he signed the “Dark (Denying Americans the Right to Know) Act”. Based on your analogy one could also conclude that Obama didn’t care… I think he did. Americans are well aware that there is “systemic corruption” in Washington and just as Obama was compelled to contend with it, so was/is Trump… Personally, I think Donald Trump in his own way does care. That said, his focus is on the “Art of the Deal” and this motivates him to establish priorities and therefore make compromises. There is a better way… it’s called respecting the “First Amendment” an admirable principal that has been undermined by the powers that be for the sake of promoting their obsession with control.
“We need to stop sanitizing everything and let bacteria back in our lives”
The above article makes some excellent points… that said, antiseptics and antibiotics aught not be considered hygienic practices, as the article would lead us to believe in the second last paragraph. They along with pasteurization etc. are unnatural adulterations that lead to increased toxicity and overall compromised health; some would say, and I tend to agree, that relying on their use, especially with respect to the pasteurization of milk has encouraged unhygienic practices…
Indeed, “Incalculable lives have been saved thanks to antiseptics and antibiotics treatments”, yet equally if not more so, incalculable lives have been harmed and sacrificed thanks to the medical industry’s relentless war on microbes with antiseptics, antibiotics, radiation and vaccines. Not mentioned and respectively adequately emphasized in this article is improved nutrition and hygiene whose overall role at saving lives preceded and superseded the role of reductionist interventions such as antiseptics, antibiotics, and vaccines… Unfortunately the latter three intervention (antiseptics, antibiotics, and vaccines) have received the bulk of the credit and have become well-established rituals.
The simple fact is the Federal Meat Inspection of 1906 just states that all meat must be inspected, unless its your animal to be slaughtered. The law does not make exception for group’s or persons.Buying groups are not being singled out the law is just being followed .I support Amos Miller 100 % and hope he is successful and wins this case .
“Yellow fever vaccine (Stamaril) and fatal adverse reactions: extreme caution needed in people who may be immunosuppressed and those 60 years and older”
“Due to an increased risk of life-threatening reactions, the vaccine must not be given to anyone with a medical history of thymus dysfunction or who is immunosuppressed. In addition, extreme caution must be used and a careful risk assessment conducted before vaccination of people aged 60 years and older due to a substantially increased risk of such adverse reactions in this age group.”
President Trump was innocent of collaboration with the Russians ,he acted like any red blooded AMERICAN male that knew he was not guility,. and overreacted by saying things he should not have said .President Trump did not use executive privilege to stop the investigation and told his staff to cooperate fully with the special council.Enough is enough ,this must be stopped it is destroying this country and important legislation is not getting done .David you have been against President Trump since he rode the escalator down in Trump Tower and announced he was running for office.Give the man and country time to heal. Thank you .
It was wonderful to have our first ZOOM conference with our RAWMI board and Listed Raw Milk producers today. The board asked the question: what can RAWMI do for the producers. What are the most important needs and what new tools are needed ? We got a very nice list.
Are there any emerging needs in the raw milk producers community that we may have missed? Send them our way. We want to hear you.
One of the biggest needs appeared to be teaching tools. Listed producers are hard at work building their local raw milk customer communities and need teaching tools, posters, brochures, etc.
The ZOOM meeting was the perfect medium to let everyone see each other and share. Thank Listed Producers and a very special thank you to our board.
We were able to show graphs of the “RAWMI effect” and test data we have collected from Listed Farmers. This data is being used to differentiate “raw milk for people verses raw milk for the pasteurizer”. It is visually compelling and really shows the distinct difference between clean ultra low risk raw milk and the other untested raw milk produced under the FDA PMO. Wow it is shocking.
The Pet Food Justice Conference on the benefits, safety and the laws pertaining to feeding raw dairy to dogs and cats took place at Raritan Community College in Bridgewater, NJ on April 20, 2019.
About 60 people attended the conference. It which was quickly organized after a NJ statewide cease and desist was imposed on raw dairy for pet consumption that sparked the need for immediate action.
Raw dairy for dogs and cats is becoming a significant new market. At the conference, some case studies were presented of dogs with various illnesses. The dogs showed remarkable health recovery by changing them over to feeding on raw dairy.
Our dogs and cats are now becoming important allies in the raw milk movement.
Our dogs and cats on the farm have reaped the benefits of daily raw milk consumption even when the so-called veterinary science was suggesting not too feed them raw milk. Indeed, and dogs and cats have also become important allies in the vaccine choice movement… Increasing autoimmune disorders and various cancers in dogs and cats related to vaccinations are a growing concern among pet owners and have become increasingly difficult for tptb to ignore…
Skin disorders for example are an increasingly problematic condition linked to vaccines and the resulting invasive introduction of toxic foreign proteins and chemicals that in turn causes autoimmune conditions… In other words, compels the body to turn against itself.
“In the act of vaccination, all of this elegantly designed, intelligently orchestrated response to a foreign invader is bypassed. The skin is picked up, the needle put through it, and a load of not one, but multiple viruses is injected. Right into the inner sanctum. That load is picked up by the capillaries in seconds, and is then circulating throughout Spot’s body.
‘Is there really any wonder why allergies occupy the top three diseases that dogs are being brought to the vet for?”
A Lethal Industrial Farm Fungus Is Spreading Among Us
By Alex Liebman and Robert Wallace, PhD
Synopsis: Candida auris is a drug-resistant yeast that has begun infecting and killing immuno-compromised people in hospitals all over the world. Its rapid spread and drug resistance probably stems from fungicide use in industrial agriculture. The use of fungicides in industrial monocultures has intensified greatly in recent years. This is creating drug-resistant fungal strains as well as destroying fungal ecosystems that would have restrained them. Agroecological methods offer excellent and credible alternative crop production systems say the authors.
This one comes under the heading of “you just can not make this stuff up!!”
We have been visited by a group of FDA inspectors for the last couple of days. They are here to perform our first Food Safety Modernization Act Inspection.
It was crazy. They took hundreds of swab tests from all over the plant facilities. They are looking for pathogens lingering around in cracks, door hinges, under door mats and etc.
When asked what they will do if they find a bad bug on some surface, they said that their compliance team will demand some kind of protocol on how we intend to keep those bad bugs out of the raw food we produce.
My answer is this: We don’t make cheese on door hinges, under the door mats or inside of miscellaneous hidden cracks. We make our cheese in clean vats and on clean tables. Duh!!!
Opdc has a policy of immediate compliance but this one was a real head scratcher. How do you reason with those that do not even know their own code.
These FDA inspectors did not know that raw cheese was legal to be sold over state lines!! They demanded to see the FDA approvals that we had for selling raw cheese aged 60 days over state lines. That approval does not exist. The FDA does not issue this type of document.
So now we have ignorance and under trained FDA inspectors swabbing miscellaneous surfaces on a hunt for bad bugs.
Like I said at the beginning. Just can not make this stuff up.
If it was not so tragic… I would laugh.
I found myself digging up FDA code and providing copies of FDA code to the FDA inspectors. Kind of like uniformed commercial pilots asking passengers if they know how to fly this thing!! ?? Or where we should land, or how to land or how much gas is left when flying along.
Scary. Really scary. Uber scary!!
I wrote an email to the supervisor of the San Francisco area FDA region asking for some direction on how to manage the questions coming from her inspectors. Questions that should not come from inspectors. They are supposed to know the code. And they are writing a report and giving us recommendations on practices and conditions? The sterile police are trying to protect us? I gave them a nice long lesson on gut biome and the need for beneficial bacteria. I reminded them that breast milk is raw milk and contains more than 700 kinds of bacteria and that if breast milk was sterile babies would die from immune compromise. Who in the hell hired and trained these people, what does their training include ? Don’t answer that question. I can only imagine.
These are really scary times.
Rather then leave it to your imagination let me answer your question…
Their “training” is based on a theory (the germ theory) that was proposed in “1546 by Girolamo Fracastoro” and expanded upon with perpetual, narrow-minded, antagonistic zeal ever since… culminating in “The Food Safety Modernization Act” (FSMA) that was signed into law by President Barack Obama on January 4, 2011. Indeed, a law granting the FDA the powers to mandate a food safety system that is based on their so-called science and which they claim “addresses food safety hazards from farm to table”.
Tell me, how can the Federal “Drug” Administration (FDA) have any conceivable concept of a food safety problem that was in fact brought on and nurtured by their “approved” drugs, chemicals, and biopharmaceuticals???
Correction… Food and Drug Administration
Very interesting development, Mark. Interesting, but not encouraging. You may recall that the Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA) was a major Obama presidency initiative, passed in late 2010. It was passed overwhelmingly by both parties, after minimal debate in Congress, based on lots of hysteria about pathogens and craziness about the FDA not having enough power to shut farms down when pathogens are discovered.
After it was passed, it kind of languished for a number of years, as Congress didn’t get around to funding it. Now, Congress has apparently seen fit to throw more money at the FDA so it can enforce the FSMA.
Basically, it gives the FDA pretty much unlimited power to do whatever it sees fit to eliminate pathogens. Those bugs it finds in door hinges or wherever can be used against you (just as nonexistent regulations about shipping raw cheese across state lines can be used against you). There is a hearing process to contest findings against you, but you are up against an agency with an unlimited legal budget.
The process of determining which farmers to audit is also arbitrary. Did FDA come after you as an alternative route against raw dairy? You’ll never know.
I wish you luck. In the meantime, here is a lengthy article about the FSMA act from Grist back in 2010. I and other food rights advocates predicted many of the results that may only now be starting to happen.
I was very sad when Obama signed that.
Mark, I’m confused. Are you selling breast milk?
You certainly are MMM!!
That is biologically ridiculous, just like picking lettuce out of the dirt while mandating you wear rubber gloves when doing so. I guess one of those “bad bugs” are going to jump out from under the floor mat and get on that table’s surface,LMAO!! We used to retail poultry that was processed on our farm and some of the conversations I had with one in particular state inspector is reminiscent of your experience Mark. Just never ceases to amaze me!! Listening to some of these folks, I just do not know how there got to be so many humans on this planet!!!
Baboons’ gut makeup is determined mostly by soil, not genetics
How might this apply to foods produced by animals on pasture?
Great comments guys.
We see this as a long term educational circus.
The NIH and pubmed biome publication contradicts the current FSMA policies.
So we have NIH fighting against the FDA. I kind of relish the self imposed internal battle that will be waged.
We pass all of the CDFA inspections marvelously.
If the FDA tries anything ? we will go states rights in them. They have no authority to shut us down. They can only advise and cause brain trauma. They could only shut us down if there was an illness in one of the interstate products.
It is a very interesting time.
I filled the heads of the young impressionable female inspectors.
My goal was to make her a new consumer. She had bad allergies.
This is a long and harrowing road.
It certainly is raw milk.
Mark, please clarify. Are you suggesting that human breast milk and animal’s milk is the same thing with the same level if risks for human babies?
I attend the IMGC conferences every year for the last 7 years. PhDs from around the world compare human milk with all other mammals milk and study it down to the genome level.
Human milk and cows milk are remarkably similar.
For all time, it has been breast feeding first and then more raw milk from other mammals as the next step. It works fantastically and builds robust immune systems.
Interesting that you say the word risk!
Breast milk when tested contains more than 700 kinds of bacteria including pathogens like salmonella.
There is a reason for this. It exercises the babies immune system and creates antibodies to protect growing babies and infants.
This is all information coming from Pudmed and IMGC.
The greatest risk of all is having a compromised immune system and getting sick from one of our modern doctor made superbugs. Raw milk builds immunity better than any other food on earth. That’s what it’s job is as the first food of life. Build a strong gut biome and immunity.
Without question, a compromised immune system is the crux of the problem…
The “greatest risk” however is listening to both the American College of Pediatricians and the Center for Disease Control who preach that cows milk and goats milk, along with human breast milk are risky enough to need pasteurizing, or…that bypassing natural censoring and immune stimulating mechanisms by multiple injections at the same time into a newborn infant with concoctions containing, mercury, aluminum, antibiotics, formaldehyde and innumerable other toxic chemicals and foreign intended and incidental biological ingredients is a natural and safe way to stimulate immunity!!!
Indeed, the above and many other antagonistic medical protocols, because of their invasive nature are largely to blame for the compromised immune system predicament humans and animals are currently faced with today.
Mark, you are a master at twisting information. You did not answer my question.
So let me ask it a different way. Are you suggesting the bacteria found in human breast milk is the same bacteria found in animal milk and when fed to human babies, the risk for illness from the milk is the same?
I will give you an example of what I am asking. A mom is breastfeeding her 2 month old child and returns to work. She pumps her breastmilk and freezes it to use when she is not available to feed the baby. She also belongs to a cow heardshare and has raw cow milk in her refrigerator. Do these two milks have equal risks to cause an illness in the baby?
One more thing.
Immune transfer from mom to baby is fecal oral. So stop blaming cows for bad anatomy. Humans transfer immunity at birth via fecal oral contact and consumption.
That’s the science. That’s what the best researchers in the world have found to be true. Babies are bacteria magnets
They require a diversity of bacteria and the raw milk to feed that bacteria. That’s why everything goes in their mouths.
Thank You Mark!! I sure wish we had a “Like” button,LOL!!
You make a very interesting point.
Let me give you a technical answer.
Some of the Antibodies found in breast milk are degraded by freezing of breast milk. The proteins are spared and so are the enzymes and bacteria.
As far as the cow share is concerned. That’s a loaded question. All depends on if the Cow Share operator has been well trained and their standards. I know some cow shares that have done a brilliant job of producing raw milk and others that are not doing a very good job at all.
So it all depends.
One thing for sure. Breast milk is not sterile and contains as many as 700 kinds of bacteria including pathogenic bacteria
The most current research says that mother-baby immune transfer and “gut biome birth” is a fecal-oral pathway.
Read up on the latest fecal transplant studies and you will find that healthy fecal contents are a life saving biome miracle. They save lives. Literally from the grips of death in the ICU after antibiotics are exhausted. Here comes the life saving fecal flush.
In the San Diego area there nurses that are cataloged according to their diets and immune traits. They sell their fecal biome contents as a medical service.
They wear scrubs and tee shirts that say:
My kind of shit saves lives!!!
Owe….how I love this subject.
And by the way…. one of these nurses drinks our raw milk and gets top dollar for her poop!
Can not make this stuff up. Love it.
The only part of this that is not 100% true is the part about the tee shirt. I just could not miss the opportunity. Lol.
But yet. It might be. They are pretty proud of their gut biome contents.
Once again, you did not answer the question. Not hearing about a lot of ill children drinking their own mother’s breast milk, frozen or not. However, lots of sick kids from raw cows milk, including 3 E.coli outbreaks from your milk. Two of the outbreaks occurred with your RAWMI standards. So “depends” doesn’t seem to make a difference.
And as far as fecal transplants go, great stuff. I follow the research. But you see, that had nothing to do with the question I asked. When you don’t want to answer the question, you side track with other topics.
You state, “Not hearing about a lot of ill children drinking their own mother’s breast milk, frozen or not”.
“Contaminated breast milk pump leaves preterm infant severely ill”
Yet my preterm twins who were fed raw cows milk mixed with raw honey and fresh unchlorinated water from the farm well using unsterilized bottles grew up to be healthy adults without a doctors interference…
The contamination of breast milk certainly appears to be a concern with both the American College of Pediatricians and the Center for Disease Control who recommends pasteurization and use of sterilizing solutions for stored human breast milk?
The hypochlorite solution suggested below as beneficial at reducing bacterial contamination of breast milk, the same solution by the way used several times daily to sanitize all milk lines and milk handling and storage equipment is hardly beneficial to an infant’s gut. If anything, it is this harsh chemical and other chemical solutions that destroy vital microbes and nurture imbalance in the gut that is causing illness… the very reason why I stopped using the above chemical to sterilize milk equipment and opted to rinse with potable water only prior to milking.
“Bacterial contamination of expressed breast milk”
“In a study of breast milk collected into sterile bottles rinsed in 1% hypochlorite solution the hypochlorite solution adherent to the sides of the bottles apparently caused a large reduction in bacterial contamination of the milk after storage at 4 degrees C for up to four hours. Heating expressed breast milk at 62.5 degrees C for five minutes destroyed over 90% of the Escherichia coli, Staphylococcus aureus, and group B beta-haemolytic streptococci inoculated into the milk samples. Rinsing collecting bottles with hypochlorite solution may be valuable in collecting milk with a low bacterial content for human-milk banks. Furthermore, the currently accepted pasteurisation time of 30 minutes may be excessive.”
News from 2011
N.J. residents go to great lengths for raw milk
“So imagine my surprise when we visited one of the most upscale direct farm marketing outfits today and I looked at eggs. Numerous dirty ones. “In the U.S. I’d go to jail if I sold eggs like this,” I noted. Here, it’s illegal to sell a washed egg. And what constitutes a dirty egg is pretty amazing. In the U.S. one speck of dirt legally makes the egg inedible…”
“We tend to look aghast at the tyranny of another country and completely overlook the lost freedoms in our own. So any time an American bureaucrat says we need these food regulations to protect public safety, realize that they are absolutely lying. You can take virtually every food regulation in the U.S. and find a country in the world that does not have such a rule.
‘And guess what. Nobody is sick. Nobody dies.
‘ If you were to identify one thing in the U.S. that is illegal unnecessarily, what would it be?”
Answer… raw milk.
KEN There are reasons fresh eggs are washed in this country and not in Europe ,I will try to explain the reasons . In this country we have large refrigerators so we have room to keep eggs cold ,in Europe the refrigerators are small ,most being the size of a refer we see in college dorms . Europeans shop for groceries at least three times a week ,in America we can shop once a week since we have the room to store our eggs and milk etc. Once eggs are washed they must be refrigerated, it is safer to have eggs washed due to the possibility of cross contamination of other food in the refer.Unwashed eggs do not have to be refrigerated ,although they will not stay fresh as long as washed eggs kept in the refer.Finally most Americans do not want chicken crap , dander from feathers ,rodents etc ,falling in the frying pan with their eggs.Thats why I love America we have the safest food laws in the world.
A rabbi who has done his homework and has the strength and integrity to speak out.
Ken I think Rabbi Handler needs to do more homework, as he needs more information about the danger of measles. These are some facts ,between 2000 and 2017 measles vaccine prevented over 21 million deaths .ln 2017 worldwide 110,000 chrildren died of measles .The disease is serious and highly contagious it is caused by contact with an unvacinated individual. Chrildren are at the highest risk of measles and its complications including death .Worldwide 85%of chrildren have received one dose of the vaccine by their first birthday .It is unbelievable to me that any educated person would be against vaccinating their chrildren .It is time that we look at the facts about vaccination, and ignore individuals that distribute false information and scare tactics. Before measles vaccination over 3 million people died from the disease annually .ENOUGH SAID
After over 35 years of research I am well acquainted with your so-called “facts”… That said, for those parents whose children were harmed by the measles vaccine and other vaccines and are now being forced by self righteous individuals who share your flawed and skewered statistical perception, this discussion is far from over.
“Unbelievable” you said!!! There is a very good reason why educated people rank at the top of the list of those who are so adamantly apposed to vaccines… They can see through this orchestrated systematic ruse!
This statement by the late Pediatrician Dr. Robert Mendelsohn holds true to today…
“After frightening you with the unlikely possibility of measles encephalitis, your doctor can rarely be counted on to tell you of the dangers associated with the vaccine he uses to prevent it. The measles vaccine is associated with encephalopathy and with a series of other complications such as SSPE (subacute sclerosing panencephalitis), which causes hardening of the brain and is invariably fatal.
‘Other neurologic and sometimes fatal conditions associated with the measles vaccine include ataxia (inability to coordinate muscle movements), mental retardation, aseptic meningitis, seizure disorders, and hemiparesis (paralysis affecting one side of the body). Secondary complications associated with the vaccine may be even more frightening. They include encephalitis, juvenile-onset diabetes, Reye’s syndrome, and multiple sclerosis.
‘I would consider the risks associated with measles vaccination unacceptable even if there were convincing evidence that the vaccine works. There isn’t. While there has been a decline in the incidence of the disease, it began long before the vaccine was introduced. In 1958 there were about 800,000 cases of measles in the United States, but by 1962-the year before a vaccine appeared-the number of cases had dropped by 300,000. During the next four years, while children were being vaccinated with an ineffective and now abandoned “killed virus” vaccine, the number of cases dropped another 300,000. In 1900 there were 13.3 measles deaths per 100,000 population. By 1955, before the first measles shot, the death rate had declined 97.7 percent to only 0.03 deaths per 100,000.
‘Those numbers alone are dramatic evidence that measles was disappearing before the vaccine was introduced. If you fail to find them sufficiently convincing, consider this: in a 1978 survey of thirty states, more than half of the children who contracted measles had been adequately vaccinated. Moreover, according to the World Health Organization, the chances are about fifteen times greater that measles will be contracted by those vaccinated for them than by those who are not.”
The following article discusses a case study done by the CDC in regards to the death of a 20-year-old male on December 17, 1993 from the measles vaccine, 15 months after vaccination.
The article states, “The case study reviewed here is from the 1990s but that is all-the-more troubling since it raises a number of serious public health questions that the CDC has known about for decades and has not yet attempted to address. Worse yet, it has not yet disclosed these known dangers to the public. While it whips up terror about wild measles outbreaks, it’s hiding the dangers it knows about its engineered vaccine virus”.
Interesting to note that plenty of non vax families drink lots of raw milk. We see this all the time. One of our biggest consumer niches is the non vac family subset. The home school crowd.
They also report that their kids are rarely ill. They are vaccinating!! Nutritionally through the gut biome.
They are building powerfully strong and resilient immune systems. They are using the natural bio diversity and whole food elements found in raw milk to build an immune system and if they are exposed to measles, they will build immunity and life will go one with a positive measles titer and antibodies to match. That’s the system that nature provides. It is the immune compromised that fall seriously ill. Cause their immune systems don’t work.
It is truly unfortunate that our government and pharmaceutical industries have exploited and squandered any trust they may have developed. The public distrust of heavy vax schedules is now biting back. In the EU they have 18 vax from zero to 18. In the USA we have about 82.
Something very wrong.