One of the things I didn’t mention in my previous post concerning New York state’s shutdown of the Apple Farm’s unpasteurized juice sales is owner Munir Bahai’s solution to his state-created mess.
He has rush-ordered an ultraviolet (UV) machine for $18,200 to carry out his pasteurization, in hopes that he can still sell apple cider this fall. The juice passes through a small refrigerator-size machine with UV tubes, and, presto magic, the pathogens are killed. The method is approved by both the state and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as an approach for pasteurizing juice.
To Bahai, it is the lesser of two evils. Conventional pasteurization seems harsher and more likely to alter the chemistry of the juice, besides being energy intensive with its high heat and quick cooling. “People are concerned. I have no choice,” he says. “I am required to buy a machine that will cost $18,200.”
While the UV process actually does kill E.coli 0157:H7, it also degrades the juice’s nutritional benefits, according to a Health Canada web site, which states, “It is known that only certain vitamins are susceptible to degradation by UV light.” While apple juice has primarily Vitamin C, the site concludes that vitamin degradation isn’t a big concern. It doesn’t try to assess the impact on enzymes and other microorganisms.
This is the second time in the last few weeks that the matter of using UV for pasteurization has come up. When I spoke several weeks ago with Mark McAfee of Organic Pastures Dairy Co. in California about possibly obtaining financing so as to expand his operations, he mentioned UV as a possible method to minimally treat milk so as to gain approval from state agriculture officials in neighboring states into which he would like to expand. He cautioned that he didn’t know a lot about its application as a milk pasteurizer—said he had heard about it being used in South Africa. There doesn’t seem to be a lot about it when searching under Google.
All I can say is it sounds like just another wonderfully American solution—guaranteed to make money for producers of the technology, with all kinds of uncertainties about the integrity of the end product eventually fed to us consumers.
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I’ve pointed out the difficulties of trying to capture the complexities surrounding Greg Niewendorp’s refusal to have his cattle tested for bovine tuberculosis, in any writing or discussion of the situation. A Michigan public radio station has done an admirable job of explaining the underlying issues, thanks to an extensive interview with Michigan lawyer Steve Bemis.
One of the main points Steve makes is that Michigan is aggressively linking the testing to mandatory involvement with the National Animal Identification System (NAIS). He explains that NAIS wan’t approved by the Michigan legislature, but simply imposed as a rule by the Michigan Department of Agriculture. He also explains that NAIS might be useful as a voluntary program for factory farms that want to sell their beef nationally and internationally, but is inappropriate for a small farm like Niewendorp’s, which sells its beef privately. He makes a connection to raw milk, which also tends to be sold privately.
The question I find myself asking more often is why small farms can’t be exempted from such wide-ranging programs ostensibly designed to protect the masses of people partaking of the factory-farm system.
I ask it regarding farmers who want to slaughter their own pigs and cattle, and then sell the meat directly to consumers who not only have no problem with the on-farm slaughtering approach, but welcome it. As several comments on my previous posting suggest, we are heading toward a situation where small farms can’t even gain access to state and federally approved slaughtering facilities. Maybe not so terrible from the view of a government that really doesn’t want us buying locally and direct.
By the way, the traditional unrefrigerated aging and handling of meat is much more common in Europe and othercountries. A friend who just returned from a two-week retreat in Greece, at a site without electricity, says she was amazed (and at first grossed out) that uncooked chicken was stored for several days without refrigeration. And no one got sick.
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And congratulations to those who are weaning themselves from refined sugar and carbs. I thought I had accomplished a lot by getting refined sugar and wheat out of my diet. I didn’t realize that it’s pretty much all carbs. (Even the brown rice?) A foodie’s work is never done…
Rice is the most digestible of all grains, but even so it’s a good idea to soak your brown rice in water for 24hrs before cooking. The soaking process will ferment and pre-digest the grains, making them even easier for your body to process and also will also speed up the cooking time to about fifteen minutes. We buy our brown rice in bulk from a Chinese grocery, usually cook three cups at a time and store the left-overs in the refrigerator. The day we finish the left-overs we soak another three cups and cook it up for dinner the next evening.
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Quite simply, your body does need carbs. That’s how you get your serotonin going, among other things. It needs fat, it needs protein, it needs carbs. Not white bread and all that bad stuff, but still.
I have fallen into that trap many times: I would read or find out about something and then be absolutely convinced that it is right for me. That applies to supplements, food, milk etc. But, in fact, everyone is quite different. Life is very complex and there are harly any absolutes or sharp 90 degree corners in nature. So these days I take it slowly, make sure I listen to ‘my’ body first – and not to my brain, which is always easger to run off into the sunset with some new great idea that will make me energized etc etc.
Among other things, I go to a great kinesiologist, who also practices chinese medicine. So far, he has tested me on a number of foodstuffs as well, as he has been right on the mark. No wheat. No commercial dairy. No corn or soy.
However, I purchase local raw goat milk and their kefir, as well as Amish milk flown in from PA, and their cottage cheese and they work like a charm.
I do have to say, however. There was one other time I was into trying raw milk – and here in LA it’s Organic Pastures, of course. I don’t know if maybe I was just unlucky, but that one time I got myself a day of fever and diarrhea after drinking some of it. Not fun. Put me off raw milk for a while. Then, I tried the Amish stuff and lo and behold – it is wonderful. So, it’s not an exact science, either, I imagine, and that’s what scares people here: this is a litigious society. If you legalize something, the system is set up so that anyone can sue anyone for anything.
ELLY, welcome to the world of OP Milk! You are lucky it was just diarrhea that you got.
My understanding from those who know Taubes and read drafts of the book, is that the book was edited down from 700+ pages. That would have been some tome. 🙂 I’ll bet what was omitted would be of great interest to many of this blog’s readers, but not perhaps to the masses. I was interested to see his acknowledgement of Weston A Price’s book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, which wasn’t included in the text or index, yet was most influential in altering his perspective. I feel quite sure that Taubes is familiar with Price’s writings on food preparation such as fermentation, but perhaps those detials strayed too far from his main points.
Also, there are no "essential" dietary carbohydrates. None, at least not in the usual sense the word essential is used in nutrition. Essential amino acids, fatty acids, vitamins & minerals, yes, because the body cannot synthesize them so they must come from the diet/beneficial gut bacteria, etc. But the body can and does make glucose and other carbohydrates in the body (gluconeogenesis), albeit a bit less efficiently than can obligate carnivores, such as felines.
If one doesn’t eat much carbohydrates (mine mainly come from non-starchy veggies so total grams stay quite low) then the body becomes very efficient without dietary carbohydrates, either using stored body fat or dietary fat and perhaps utilzing protein for energy (hopefully dietary, not body protein mass). But the body doesn’t burn fat or protein for energy if excess carbohydrates come down the gullet, because the insulin/glucagon hormone responses do not happen simultaneously. And the body can and does make whatever carbohydrates are needed to process amino acids into serotinin.
I’m also curious about not only the diets of other, healthier cultures, but the lifestyle habits of these people groups as well. WAPF foundation advocated high calorie, high fat diets but Americans (or western civ in general) don’t do the same types of manual/physical labor like traditional cultures that are removed from so called "civilization." I know this must play a factor. Furthermore, I was rather displeased to see that some of the board members of WAP eat things like bacon and shellfish (both known to be toxin rich foods). Kinda makes a person a bit skeptical, I think. Has anyone read the book entitled "What the Bible Says About Healthy Living?" That was my latest read, and I really liked it. It’s low meat though (but not low egg or milk). I will be looking more closely at Taubes book now, as well as the WAP material.
All traditional cultures fermented or sprouted their grains before cooking or bread-making. The fermentation process breaks down difficult-to-digest proteins, lectins and other anti-nutrients present in the whole grain. Over time consumption of these anti-nutrients and other proteins can cause long term inflammation and other chronic diseases, which is why quick-rise whole wheat bread and other modern wheat products have been linked to Celiac disease, rheumatoid arthritis, epilepsy and other auto-immune disorders.
Don–I have heard that tradtional cultures fermented their grains (and beans) but I’ve also read information countering this argument (see the Bread Beckers website). Fermented grain is still grain though–is it not? And what about legumes. I am just very leary of a diet that totally leaves out natural God-given foods like these and says that all carbs are bad for you. I’m not of the belief that "everything in moderation" is okay, because I believe some things are simply not okay (like sugar, white bread, hot dogs, fast food in general, etc) but I’m not sure that being so restrictive as to exclude all carb sources is correct either. Limiting them and using them properly–yes. But total elimination–the jury is out for me.
I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that grains and legumes are bad for you. I eat oatmeal and a fried egg every day for breakfast, but I always soak the oats for 24hrs first. Likewise I only eat French Meadows bread, which is baked from wheat that has undergone a four-day souring process. Likewise legumes should also always be soaked in a slightly acidic medium to break down the complex carbohydrates and other proteins.
Humans didn’t evolve biologically eating grains, but we’ve been cultivating them for the past ten-thousand years and we’ve culturally evolved methods for safely preparing them. Through a process of trial and error, tradtional cultures realized that soaking, sprouting and fermenting made grains safe to eat and increased their nutrient load. It’s only our culture, biased by money and industrial techniques, that has turned our back on our cultural knowledge and forgotten the link between grain and disease/disorder.
A transcription of an excellent, easy to understand lecture called "Insulin and Its Metabolic Effects" given by Dr. Ron Rosedale some eight years ago can be found at http://www.biblelife.org/rosedale.htm . It discusses insulin sensitivity, how it affects many other hormones and body systems, and how it damages the body. It demonstrates why we all should be eating low-carb.
Unfortunately, the lecture must have been transcribed from an audiotape and is somewhat poorly punctuated, but even so it’s fascinating.
Imagining that you’re hearing the lecture as you read along helps a lot,
I can’t really comment on the Biblical issues of food and diet, since I don’t view the Bible as a credible food reference (no offense intended for those who do). Likewise, I don’t think there really is much scientific evidence that properly raised pork (not facotry farmed) is toxic. In fact, pork has been a food staple of peoples the world over, especially in parts of Europe and Asia and Polynesia and later in the US (the book Cold Mountain has great descriptions of how important the family pig was to Southern families in the Civil Ware era). Being omnivores, pigs were perfect animals to keep a family fed through winter, even an urban family in many cases, as it could eat scraps, didn’t need so much space or any pasture, and provided long-lasting meat, fat for food, soap, and other things, and leather. Pork fat is almost 50% monosaturated, which is probably as much a part of the exalted Mediterranean diet as Olive Oil, yet it is more stable. Joel Salatin has lots of good things to say about pigs as animals, too. They are good rooters, so they turn over the compost piles for him in search of fermented corn kernals, saving man-power and machine poser, not to mention time. So personally, I think pork is unfairly maligned.
if you’re not working from a Biblical worldview, I can understand that you wouldn’t necessarily be interested in anything the Bible has to say. I however, hold a strong Biblical wv and I know there is a reason for all of the dietary laws in the OT–they are not arbitrary. I don’t think they were negated by anything in the NT either (if anyone wants to know why, I can entertain that but it’s kinda off topic here). Anyhow, I choose to keep everything I do in the context of a Biblical framework. That is where my solid beliefs lie. I have no doubts that people have been eating pork all over the world throughout history. And given the atrocious SAD that we have here, there is no doubt you can eat pork and be healthier than someone else who is eating pure garbage all the time (read: sugar, white flour etc). I too had GD and that was when I really became more aware of the poor food supply we have in this country with all the refined products, plus additives, and who knows what in even the "fresh" foods at the store. I do my best, but I admit I get frustrated because everyone seems to have their own "evidence" and "studies" indicating their diet is right. I don’t think there is a magic bullet for health and wellness, but I like to know what’s true and what isn’t. Sometimes it seems pretty hard to know in this area. But since I do have a Biblical worldview, and that, to me, is the only solid truth I can rely upon, I always have to ask if any other info I read/hear lines up with that teaching. Hope that makes sense:)
By the way, honey (and I think some of the other "low glycemic" seeteners popular in health stores, like agave syrup) is also something to be used in moderation (for me, extreme moderation). Like high fructose corn syrup and table sugar, it is high in concentrated fructose (much higher per serving than actual fruit). While fructose was first identified in fruits (hence the name), it is not more benign than glucose because metabolized (in the liver) differently from glucose. So while it doesn’t raise glucose levels directly or cause an insulin response, it does appear to raise glucose levels indirectly, as well as being very prone to an unhealthy form of glycosylation (sugars that stick to proteins in such a way as to "gum" them up and prevent proper function – a sort of premature aging, approproiate abbreviated AGE). Taubes goes into this near the middle of his book and the Diabetes Update blog has a post today about this, linking higher than expected A1c test results from heavy seasonal tomato eating despite excellent blood glucose control.
The medical worldview is concerned with the symptoms and cure of disease, not with health.
G.T. Wrench wrote in his book "The Wheel of Health" about being a medical student in the 1930’s
"After debating the question — Why disease? Why not health? — again and again with my fellow students, I slowly, before I qualified, came to a further question — Why was it that as students we were always presented with sick or convalescent people for our teaching and never with the ultra-healthy? Why were we only taught disease? Why was it presumed that we knew all about health in its fulness? The teaching was wholly one-sided."
Nearly 80 years later and things haven’t changed much.
Well, first of all, to go back to carbs:
not all carbs are made equal, in my opinion. You are looking (er.. reading?) at the person who got in trouble health-wise two years ago, and I have been on a personal odyssey ever since. So, I have found, once again that there is a big difference between various schools of thought, and most of them make total sense when you are reading their point of view, but – not everyone is made equal, so what works for one person won’t work for another. Except something like eliminating white bread.
What happened to me was: I was prescribed Ciprofloxacin by mistake, for a bladder infection I did not, in fact, have. I probably had a yeast infection. This happened right after I read (sic!) how wonderful colonics were for you…blah blah. And they are! Don’t get me wrong. But, I went for the whole monty (three in a row), didn’t really take probiotics religiously (or anything else for that matter), got a yeast infection, took Cipro…you get the picture.
My flora/fauna was gone, ladies and gents. Two weeks later I got hit with mouththrush. Oh boy. Not fun. And my digestion and everything else were never the same (except, things are getting on track now, two years later).
So, I threw myself in research. Diets, candida cleanses, more colonics, adrenal burnout, um, no carbs for three-four months – once again, candida cleanse thingie.
Let me tell you something: it did not work. After three-four months (and I cut out all fruit, too, for the first month) I was miserable. I had lost tons of weight – in fact, I was underweight – I was not healthy. I was depressed. I was certainly not exhibiting any signs of doing better.
Anyhow.
Long story short. If I write about anything, it’s because it’s all from experience, and not theory:-) (I am positive most of us on this blog are the same way, which proves that people are just different).
A side note: just the other day, I picked up the book by Peter Adamo – Blood Type diet. Actually, I had bought it in the first few months of my issues. Reading it now, after all my experiments, and experiences, was actually quite interesting. In fact, a lot of things made total sense, and were essentially correct. And that went the same way for my boyfriend! I am a type A. Essentially, A’s do best on vegetarian diet. And in fact, I do. They require a ton of fermented food. And, as I am finding out, I do. There are lots of other points of interest. Interestingly enough, my boyfriend who is an "O" also fits the profile quite neatly. Fascinating stuff. I am looking forward to re-reading the book, knowing things that I know now from my own experience.
But basically. I need fruit. I love veggies. I do need occasional meat. I also love chicken, this and that. I avoid starchy things, mostly. Brown rice works like a champ for me. White..umm..it’s ok now and then. No bread, mostly no grain. I am going to check out the whole rye thing, but not convinced. I have been off wheat/grain for a month and it’s working wonderfully. Wild rice is great, but a tad difficult to digest (must chew a LOT). A’s seem to have low acid stomachs, and in fact, I do, as I have found out in the past year.
As far as OP milk. I don’t remember what month it was. I just remember having diarrhea and being a bit feverish. Obviously, my body found something it did not like in there. After that, I was a tad cautious, um, but the products I am getting now are wonderful. The cooperative here has a deal with an Amish farm that has forty five cows. Enough said.. same goes for the goat milk stuff – small operation.
See, I think the key thing is size. As soon as something gets big and commercial, so to speak, quality becomes much more difficult to control. I am sure OP is a wonderful operation and people who are behind it are doing all they can. But once numbers get big, well.. it’s just different, don’t you think?
By the way, I recently found a website of farm in Texas that will ship you milk and other goodies. Anyone interested? They have a good vibe.
I absolutely agree. I grew up in Russia eating everything – it’s a bread country, wheat (used to be) a national treasure and a symbol.
But here wheat is processed differently, apparently. So, I find myself at a old age of 26 wheat-sensitive. Oh and corn. And soy. Soy is a whole other matter that I have a pretty definite opinion on.
My feeling is that yes, once your digestive system has been weakened, the sensitivities will start popping up, and commercial grains, dairy and such are top two on the list. Secondly, I know for a fact that high gluten flour has only been widely used in production of bread for the last 40 years or so – or less. Bread is not what it used to be. There was a lot of sourdough around, and, well, it’s sort of a fermented food itself.
The idea of sourdough is that the wild yeasts and fermented ingredients of the starter actually break down the grains in a different way, and make them more digestible.
I’ve tested the theory on a number of clients who have said they react to wheat products. I give them a loaf of my own sourdough bread (wild based starter, fresh stone ground whole wheat flour). Most of them (but not all) can eat and enjoy this bread, but not regular whole wheat. Many of them also can eat sprouted grain breads. Again, the wheat is changed in the process of the sprouting.
My conclusion is that there are three things that make bread a problem: using processed yeast, the poor quality of the flour (hammer milled, old, heated during the milling, etc.), and the reliance on wheat alone as our primary grain.
I think it is completely unfair to link white flour and white sugar products in the same category as a product like fresh sourdough bread made with freshly ground stone ground flour, and some of the other foods that are basic and simple.