Can Anyone Save Amish Salve Maker Sam Girod from Rotting in Jail?

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The feds came for Amish salve maker Sam Girod this morning, hauling him off to jail, where he very well could spend the rest of his life.

Nearly a year ago, I wrote about Girod’s legal problems with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and how they worsened significantly over several years of regulatory tussles, to the point he was facing criminal charges carrying penalties of up to 48 years in prison.

The immediate cause of Girod’s arrest today was his failure to appear last August at a status conference on his case. Apparently because he had been released from jail on his own recognizance, in advance of his trial, he was required to appear personally at every hearing.

The arrest was first reported on Facebook by food and health activist Sally O’Boyle (better known as Sally Oh).

At a hearing this afternoon at a U.S. District Court in Lexington, KY, a prosecutor accused him of failing to appear for the August hearing. Girod, who represented himself, said he understood that an appeal he filed to a U.S. Appeals Court on one aspect of his case had placed the entire case in abeyance. The judge didn’t buy in, and ordered that Girod remain in jail until the trial begins in late February. There was also talk in comments by supporters at Sally Oh’s Facebook post, that the local sheriff in Girod’s county had failed to follow through on a commitment to challenge federal authorities who might come looking for the Amish salve maker.

Complicating the case further is the fact that Girod apparently separated from his lawyer some months ago. According to a friend of Girod’s, he became disillusioned and upset when the lawyer sought to negotiate a potential plea deal with prosecutors.

As in many plea deals, the arrangement had Girod spending a reduced amount of time in jail compared to what a judge might sentence him to if he were convicted in trial. According to the friend, “Sam kept asking, ‘What is the purpose of having a lawyer if he wanted me to take a deal, and not go to trial?’ ” It’s not clear if Girod objected to paying the much higher legal fees that would have undoubtedly been required for a trial, as opposed to a plea deal.

So now Girod seems likely to go to trial, representing himself, up against seasoned U.S. Justice Department lawyers. And he’ll have to prepare his defense from a jail cell.

Girod’s disdain of legal representation is typical of Amish farmers and other business people accused of violating criminal laws. They generally disdain lawyers as an evil component of the mainstream culture they spend their lives avoiding. In the process, though, they frustrate non-Amish who want to support individuals like Girod, who seems a victim of overly aggressive FDA enforcement.

The odds for Girod in a trial were never real good, considering the apparent animosity among the FDA agents against him. Now, the odds appear very high that the 56-year-old Amish father of 12 could well spend the rest of his life behind bars.

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93 Comments on "Can Anyone Save Amish Salve Maker Sam Girod from Rotting in Jail?"

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Alvin Schlangen
January 13, 2017 9:57 pm

Life in prison for making salve for his community? Are you serious, David? Is this maritime law or irs?

Ken Conrad
Ken Conrad
January 14, 2017 3:39 am

David,
What the so-called “Justice” Department is doing to Sam Girod and his family is miscarriage of justice.

Those attorneys do not deserve the title of, “Seasoned U.S. Justice Department lawyers”… More appropriately they should be referred to as sanctimonious Machiavellian mouthpieces working for a pharisaical, “justice” department. Do they not have a conscience?

To paraphrase Martin Luther King Jr… Your legal power has outrun your spiritual power. You have guided lawyers and misguided men.

Steven Richards
Steven Richards
January 14, 2017 5:00 am

Have family learn (unlearn?) stuff discussed on imbatman57 conference call recordings, then pass it on in letters and/or during visitations? There’s also Marc Stevens w/ the “No State Project”, but seems he recommends making some claims, like claiming to “own” stuff.

Sally Oh
January 14, 2017 3:32 pm

I found imbatman57 on talk shoe. Anywhere else I can find him to learn more?

Steven Richards
Steven Richards
January 14, 2017 8:16 pm

He’s on skype… if you search the user directory you should find him… or add me: masterchiefa and i’ll put you in contact, plus maybe add you to a room or two where we discuss that stuff

Steven Richards
Steven Richards
January 14, 2017 8:16 pm

search the skype user directory for imbatman57 i mean

Richard Barrrett
Richard Barrrett
January 14, 2017 12:02 pm

If every Amish buggy could surround the jail for a day, this may get media coverage of a peaceful protest. Is there anyone close by that can organize this? Public pressure does work. The FDA and the CDC is so callouss and cruel that they even cause death. This is revealed in http://www.VaccinesRevealed.com which is showing now for free for the next 4 days. Shocking news!

Sally Oh
January 14, 2017 3:33 pm

We are mobilizing asap! Will keep David posted and he can share here!

Sally Oh
January 14, 2017 12:08 pm

And pissy is exactly how the FDA is behaving. This entire thing is retribution for Sam’s refusing a second warrant-less search of his property. He allowed the first one on the condition that the Feds not take photos. The Feds did take photos (shocking, right?) so Sam refused the 2nd one.

Yes, I fear that without representation — particularly an attorney who is experienced at voir dire (jury selection) — he will spend the rest of his life in jail.

What he does next is critical to his freedom. I’m worried.

lis
lis
January 14, 2017 2:26 pm

Staying out of their (maritime/statutory) jurisdiction is the only way to get remedy. Youtube Karl Lentz, common law claim.

I can show Sam’s family or someone from his town how to file a common law claim on his behalf BEFORE the hearing. Sam should say NOTHING in court and let his claim ride. The only question relevant is: “who’s the wo/man with a verified claim that i do harm?” In common law, it HAS to be a man or woman (State of xyz is a FICTION and cannot interface with man) to bring a claim against the wrondoer; thus, cannot bring charges against man. This is why they need to turn people into persons (fiction) and we are ignorant of the law.

Sam’s family or friend can contact me and i’ll show them how. I don’t live in the same state/town, so i can’t file for Sam.

Sally Oh
Andrew
Andrew
January 15, 2017 11:01 am

Please look into jerry nullification add part of a defense. There may be people willing to come abs distribute pamphlets to educate people around the courthouse about this Tenet of law.

Gordon Watson
Gordon Watson
January 15, 2017 11:19 am

If you’re going to promote jury nullification, then = you first, Andrew … Make sure you tell prospects > “if you aren’t prepared to go to gaol for this, then you ought not be here”.

Freedom of the Press belongs to those who practice it … if you think the feds are acting like monsters, so far, it gets much worse when some true Patriot gets out on the public sidewalk exposing tyranny, in print

andrew
andrew
January 15, 2017 12:01 pm

Indeed and thank you for noting that caveat. Google Julian Heicklen. Is the trial being held in NYC?

Gordon S Watson
Gordon S Watson
January 14, 2017 3:58 pm

Mister “lis” = back in the 90s – scuffling-along through the so-called “DeTax” movement – I was in British Columbia Provincial Court many times, assisting self-reps. 3 times, sitting in the gallery, I watched as guys who pulled that stunt you’re advising, got taken out of the Courtroom in handcuffs, sent away for a psychiatric evaluation. Suffice to say : that Alice-in-Blunderland crap-ola does not work in the objective reality, shared by the rest of us. Not only is it NON-sense … it’s dangerous nonsense.

“ignorant of the law” ? That’s an understatement. You’re about 2 centuries behind what transpires in those playgrounds of the Cult of the Black Robe, in which there’s a whole different set of rules going on, than is pretended

Sue
Sue
January 14, 2017 4:00 pm
The best support Girod could get would be bodies inside and outside the courtroom, much as this community has done when farmers are harassed by local and federal authorities. I more than share his disdain for the so-called legal profession, having witnessed dealings at all levels of law. It is difficult to find an attorney worth much more than our wiping our butts with their diplomas AND license papers. Reality does not dictate inside a courtroom. And, certainly not where any (other) facet of government is involved. People don’t realize what judges (if you listen to them intently) will tell you as you walk past the gate in any courtroom in the land. Often, it is more a matter of the victims will not admit. Administrative Procedure would have cured the problem, but that is especially difficult for the Amish and others like them unless they have friends willing to take the risk and do things for them. Girod did nothing wrong – or should I say – did nothing most corporations do not do. However the process has gone too far now, and hopefully he does get a trial. Whether or not it is a fair one will amount… Read more »
Jack Moore
January 14, 2017 5:52 pm

Is this an administrative court, even though the penalty appears to be criminal? I ask this because I attended Vernon Hershberger’s trial in Baraboo, WIsconsin. It seemed like a fake court. Then I learned that the judge works for the state regulatory authority. No wonder he sustained 80% of the objections made by the prosecution and overruled 80% of those made by the defense! Oh, and the defendant was not protected by our U.S. Constitution. Thank goodness the jury found Vernon not guilty on three of the four charges! (Btw, Vernon had a really good lawyer.)

Sue
Sue
January 14, 2017 7:25 pm
If I had my druthers, I would call them Kangaroo Courts, but the effect is the same whether or not. These cases are held in federal court, usually FDA remains admin related rather than criminal, but just as in family court – the verdict and possible sentence are similar though attorneys would have you think different. These are, at this point, criminal charges, brought by an administrative agency. Effect is the same. Jail and fines. Given he was not able to do administrative procedure first, which could have effectively blocked the case from making it to court, its rather a moot point. He would need the advice of a good pro se now because any attorney worth his BAR membership will either recommend (as the previous one did) a plea bargain or will charge several generations’ inheritance to fight a jury trial. Bench trials in these cases are not something to hope for as these judges are generally paid either directly or indirectly by the plaintiff. Anyone interested in truth can see where this system is stacked against it, but for the Amish it is particularly difficult. They are willing to martyr themselves for truth, which is commendable, but often… Read more »
David R.(Canada)
David R.(Canada)
January 14, 2017 6:41 pm

Then there’s Obama pardoning real, hardened criminals while these victims of the anger of the pharmaceutical companies remain.

blesse\'d are the cheese makers
blesse\'d are the cheese makers
January 15, 2017 10:21 am

It seems to me that the local county sheriff’s “failure to follow through on a commitment to challenge federal authorities” is a huge problem here. The elected county sheriff in each county is the highest ranking law enforcement official in the county — even higher ranking that the feds. The problem is . . . most county sheriffs do not understand their Constitutional power AND duties. Therefore, most county sheriffs “cower” in the shadow of the federal tyrants.

This county sheriff should have “stood in the gap” on behalf of Mr. Girod, if the federal bureaucrats did not have the legal authority in the first place to shake Girod down.

The best shot Mr. Girod has is to make this as public as he can make it. Rally the troops. He needs to demand a jury trial for this as well. The feds do not like jury trials because they know how stupid and tyrannical they look when viewed by a jury.

This case needs to be as public and exposed as possible if Girod stands a chance to not be railroaded by a federal leviathan that is so out of control it is past any redemption.

mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 15, 2017 12:11 pm

The first order of business is posting bail. Then get the best lawyer possible. FTCLDF pays off grandly right about now.

Gordon Watson
Gordon Watson
January 15, 2017 2:15 pm

you’re wasting your breath urging the Amish-man to reach out for assistance, to anyone other than his closed cult. That being the root of Mr Girod’s problem = double-minded-ness. IE. Assuming he could maintain his religious integrity, yet step off the Amish Reservation to deal in commerce, and taint himself with the ways of the sordid “English”.

no doubt Sam Girod is a fine man, whose salve does actually work. No doubt he sincerely thinks of himself as standing for a noble cause. But in this scenario, is he? What did Menno Siemens and the champions of that religion, do? Does he cleave to sound doctrine as given to us in the Bible, or not? Test question being : how come he didn’t ‘settle with his Adversary in the way’, as commanded by Jesus Christ ??

mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 15, 2017 12:13 pm

Not much of a flight risk on horse and
Buggy

bless\'ed are the cheese makers
bless\'ed are the cheese makers
January 15, 2017 1:02 pm

He’s baaaaack.

bora petski
bora petski
January 15, 2017 2:55 pm

He’s never left, always right.

Nancy E Pordon
January 15, 2017 3:30 pm

How can we the people help him?

mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 15, 2017 10:56 pm
I have been surrounded by groups of Amish. This is their culture and you absolutely correct. They mean nothing by this. It is a behavior and a way of listening intently. As far as him producing a legal product….all he needs to do is label it as a dietary or nutritional supplement. It would be legal under DSHA act, or the dietary health supplements act. The vitamin producers sought and received protection from the fda under DSHA years ago. He must immediately seek good counsel and seek a settlement with the FDA claiming his products are supplements not intended to treat any disease. When the FDA sued me 8 years ago, they tried to throw me in jail, fine me and tried to convenience a federal judge that I was a horrible criminal because I sold raw milk as pet food over state lines. With a good attorney, (Gary Cox ) we literally kicked their ass….they not only were embarrassed by the federal judge, they were ridiculed and sent packing by the judge with nothing to show for their great attempt at enforcement. When dealing with the FDA, you must act from strength and go for the throat. They only… Read more »
Blesse\'d are the cheese makers
Blesse\'d are the cheese makers
January 16, 2017 10:14 am
This is an subject where I agree whole heartedly with Mr. McAfee. You have to deal with these FDA folks from a starting point that the FDA is NOT there to make food safe and be your friend. They are there to control and shake down small producers. That is their real job. Folks must understand this. They are like the Martians in “Mars Attacks” saying, “Do not run, we are your friends.” In addition, the FDA is part of the illegal and unconstitutional “Fourth” branch of government. Our elected officials created these lawless bureaucracies. Then, once created, authority is “delegated” to the agencies by the elected bodies. After that, our elected officials in congress do little to oversee these lawless government behemoths. Moreover, most judges will “defer” to the agencies on top of that. What is most disconcerting about these tyrannical, lawless “Alphabet Soup” agencies is they have written into their regulations criminal sanctions (which in my opinion violates the 5th and 6th Amendments). They are basically jack booted thugs who swoop down on someone’s farm and ransack the place and then find ways to drum up charges against anyone who dares to question them. On top of that,… Read more »
D. Smith
D. Smith
January 16, 2017 9:45 pm

DOA FDA? (I wouldn’t use the RIP the author did because I don’t want any of them to ever rest in peace). I want the FDA dead on arrival wherever it goes when it scatters in the wind. 🙂

One can only hope this actually happens: https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/fda-rip/

Ditto for the fraudulent CDC.

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/01/16/robert-f-kennedy-jr-cdc-an-edifice-of-fraud/

The reader comments are pretty good, too, and there is a really good embedded link in the article (re: spider).

Owen Yoder
January 17, 2017 3:18 pm
bora petski
bora petski
January 17, 2017 3:55 pm

Sorry David I don’t mean to clog up your blog but again, I think this is relevant and needs awareness of the few who really care: Occupy the farM: http://civileats.com/2017/01/11/obama-finally-issued-rules-to-protect-small-farmers-are-they-too-little-too-late/

” give students a chance to expand their horizons, discover new passions, and enrich the quality of their overall education. Not everyone who attends a piano recital becomes a musician, and not everyone who visits a campus farm will become a farmer, but some will.”

Shana Milkie
Shana Milkie
January 22, 2017 8:03 pm

David, could you post the link for the gofundme fundraiser for Sam Girod as an update in your article? I suspect that many of your readers would like to support him if they knew there was a fundraiser going on.

mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 17, 2017 11:08 pm
Here is my comment. I know for a fact that raw milk is allowed over International state lines. I have an official email from the chief counsel of the fda office in San Fransisco stating just that. They rightfully agreed with me that interstate commerce is not the same as international commerce. There are two sets of laws and regs that control these areas of law. If you want to ship raw milk to another country, that is fine with the FDA, as long as the other country is inviting the shipment and agrees with the import of the raw dairy product or raw milk . As far as Vilsack is concerned. He is a very good person. In his capacity as USDA secretary, he tried his best under the most impossible set of political conditions. As a delegate to the NFU, I have had the honor of hearing him speak several times. To hear him tell stories about being a friend of organics, while at the same time trying to keep the peace with GMOs and at the same time defend the rights of consumers to know what is in their food…was quite appreciated. It was the Midwest, verses… Read more »
Emma Gardner
Emma Gardner
January 18, 2017 6:21 pm

Very true, and international trade in raw milk is thriving. Many Canadians in B.C. regularly purchase raw milk from any of 39 licensed farms and 110+ grocery stores and coops in Washington State and bring it back in their weekly cross-border shopping trips. Customs officials happily wave them through.

The B.C. Government even confirmed in an email recently that they will take NO action against anyone who is bringing milk across the border or selling it to Canadian consumers, as it is not being produced/distributed from a farm in Canada:

“As provincial laws only apply in BC, the Milk Industry Act’s prohibitions on the sale or supply of raw milk do not apply to transactions occurring outside of BC. … Regulations prohibit the sale in Canada of raw milk to consumers … regulating the types and amounts of products brought back into Canada from another country (e.g., the United States) is the responsibility of the federal government.” (email from the Ministry of Health, September 19, 2016)

[Meanwhile, raw milk farmers in B.C. are faced with a provincial law threatening a maximum $3,000,000 fine and 3 years jail time for letting even the smallest amount leave the farm.]

mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 19, 2017 10:52 am

Emma Gardener,

Your comment really defines the issue…..it is not the Drinking or consumption of raw milk by Canadians that is the real issue. The real issue is the politics and economics of market control of Canadian dairy milk and its sale. You nailed it. If consumption of raw milk was the issue….it would be banned or prohibited at the border. It is not.

The very same thing goes for Humboldt County in CA, it is legal to ship raw milk via UPS or FedEx to consumers in Humboldt…..but no sales from a store inside of Humboldt County. These are silly protective local policies created to protect local producers from competition.

mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 21, 2017 10:31 pm
This is for all of you right wingers and your new president. I am shocked that all he could talk about in the first 24 hours of his presidency was how huge his crowds were…..when they were comparatively small ( looked puny ) when compared to Obama four years ago or eight years ago. Your sociopathic narsistic fool is so ” insecure” that he tasked his press secretary to try and make a case for how the media had faked pictures of the crowds look small. He had his press secretary lie about numbers…..yes….he lied. Trump is so thin skinned….it is pathetic. However…The crowds that were huge….were the massive crowds that formed all around the world in protest of Donald Trump and everything he represents to everyone around the world. When Donald Trump says America First….what does that mean? ….it means step on everyone else. It means “no fair trade” it means taking Iraqi oil because we have the power… Trump is a scary insecure little person and far worse. Hillary was right….anyone can bait him with a tweet. I look forward to his impeachment by a joint Commision of congress. What a humiliating mistake. The republicans can not tolerate… Read more »
Blesse\'d are the cheese makers
Blesse\'d are the cheese makers
January 24, 2017 7:29 am

I’ve been off here a few days and come back only to see McAfee is at it again with his ill-informed idiotic unsubstantiated rants. Mark — you really need to put the crack pipe down. It is destroying your brain cells.

After witnessing some of the hysterical out-of-control behavior of the snowflakes in DC last weekend, I can only hope and pray that we have not passed the point of no return with this commie leftist suicidal self destructive insanity the left has foisted upon us over the last several decades.

Madonna wants to “blow up” the Whitehouse now? What a sad day for our Constitutional Republic. Here’s to getting this thing turned around — NOW.

mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 22, 2017 9:09 am

Gordon,

Question for you ? Is being Christ like….the Christianity you are referring too?

Christ was not a king. He was a common man with uncommon reverence to humanity in a time when kings had no reference for humanity.

Trump is an anti-Christ. He believes in robbery ( bankruptcy to cheat those that worked hard for him ) theft ( wants to TAKE Iraqi oil with out paying the Iraqi people ) greed ( America First and to hell with everyone else ) self serving ( the greatest narsistic sociopath of modern times ).

Christ is crying right now.

Ken Conrad
Ken Conrad
January 22, 2017 10:26 am

Mark,
Christ is referred to in scripture as, “King of Kings and Lord of Lords”. In other words he has the power to exercise absolute dominion over all of creation. Jesus will return to judge the world and establish His earthly kingdom, as He predicted in Mark 13:26. I look forward to that day…

Gordon S Watson
Gordon S Watson
January 22, 2017 1:55 pm
“Christ-like” ? Mr. McAffee, apparently you’ve been bamboozled into the modern ‘anything goes’ mentality, accepting every kind of sloppy agape that’s fashionable, as somehow godly. I recommend you read the Bible, and ALL of it. You’ll find that one of its main themes, is : ‘separation from the world’ / nationally and personally. From about 1905, when the communists proclaimed that they were intent on destroying white Christian America, ’til now, the hedges of protection around our nation, have been broken down by Race Traitors in high places. Trump got elected because he reminded Americans that an individual and a community has the right to self-defence against enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. The human body is constantly deciding ‘what is “self”, versus “not self”. Same with the country … The tidal wave of non-whites swarming into US territory from the 3rd world – utterly illegally – are a swarm of locusts eating up our substance. They don’t come here to build the Republic ; they come only to take, not give … to impose their anti-christ religions on us by stealth and terror. They and their apologists insinuated demselves into the body politic, while national immunity was compromised. Modern sappy Christians… Read more »
Joseph Heckman
Joseph Heckman
January 22, 2017 3:53 pm
Speaking on Wed, Jan 25, 2017 in Lexington, KY 2017 Organic Agriculture Research Symposium http://www.ofrf.org/news/2017-organic-agriculture-research-symposium Parallels in the Raw Milk and Organic Agriculture Movements Joseph R. Heckman Department of Plant Biology and Pathology, Rutgers University, New Brunswick, New Jersey, 08901 Abstract In recent decades a diverse community of dairy farmers, consumers and nutrition advocates has campaigned to secure and expand the right for individuals to produce, sell and consume fresh unpasteurized milk, commonly referred to as “raw milk”. Their efforts to increase public access to raw milk share important parallels with the emergence of the organic food movement over the past century. Both the raw milk and organic food movements originated with farmers and consumers who sought to replace industrialized food production and processing practices with more traditional ones. Both movements equate the preservation of natural integrity in farming and food handling with more wholesome, nutritious food and environmental conservation. Advocates for both movements have had to work diligently to overcome perceptions that the food production and processing practices they endorse are relevant in the modern era, notably with regard to organic agriculture’s productivity and the safety of raw milk. Finally, the raw milk movement has the potential to economically… Read more »
mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 22, 2017 9:34 am

Prediction. You heard it here first. Van Jones President in 2021.

Stitchy
Stitchy
January 23, 2017 2:10 pm

Van Jones, the angry black racist? That Van Jones? Nope, Jones would only get Trump re-elected.

Gordon S Watson
Gordon S Watson
January 24, 2017 1:06 am

your political prognostications are batting less than zero, Mark. I recommend you stick to your area of expertise ; no … 8 years of the Mohammedan in the White House, was the last we’ll see of that = the outworking of Deuteronomy 28. When the pendulum swings, it swings ALL the way back.

Ken Conrad
Ken Conrad
January 24, 2017 2:52 pm

“We are heartbroken to announce that our dear friend, our brilliant colleague, journalist par excellence, dedicated book co-author, the heart, soul and leader of our “rebel alliance,” Dan Olmsted, passed away this weekend.”

http://www.ageofautism.com/people_making_a_difference/

Gary Ogden
Gary Ogden
January 25, 2017 10:36 pm

Ken Conrad: Yes, a terrible shock. One of the righteous taken too soon.

mark mcafee
mark mcafee
January 25, 2017 6:44 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc

Dear friends and Trump lemonade drinkers….
I hope you enjoyed the Netherlands take our 12 year old fool of a sociopathic president. He speaks like he is half drunk underage drinker sitting on a bar stool with idiot friends. Fractured sentences, alternative facts, believing in his own alternative reality.

Narcissistic, totally insecure, bullying, sexually abusive, racist, lying, alternative fact believing, conspiracy theory creating….did I say serial liar?? The psychiatrists and sociologists and PhD professors of language have declared Trump mentally unstable and in need of deep therapy of some kind.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/donald-trump-narcissism-therapists

If you love Trump….start looking in the mirror….what does that say about you.

No I am not smoking crack….I am drinking really good raw milk.
My rants are not stopping,….I am just warming up!! This “uber insecure dictator jerk” has shut down government public access data sites because he refuses to allow the carbon dioxide levels ( highest ever to be recorded and related to global warming ) to be published!!!!! and has even pissed off the most conservative of the republican party.

Joseph Heckman
Joseph Heckman
January 26, 2017 8:19 pm

Two books of interest:
Baars, T., P. Beals, T. Beals, R. Brown, M. Cattell, J. Heckman, A. Nelson, G. Snyder, S. Wilson, T. Wightman. Producing Fresh Milk, Goat Edition. 2017. Farm-to-Consumer Foundation. Cincinnati, Ohio.
Baars, T., P. Beals, T. Beals, R. Brown, M. Cattell, J. Heckman, A. Nelson, G. Snyder, S. Wilson, T. Wightman. Producing Fresh Milk, Cow Edition. 2015. Farm-to-Consumer Foundation. Cincinnati, Ohio.
Available from: https://www.springhouse-press.com/

blesse\'d are the cheese makers
blesse\'d are the cheese makers
January 26, 2017 10:47 pm

Of course you’re on the global warming/climate change train. I should have known. You wearin’ your pussy hat when you write this crap, Markie boy? Or is your hat made out of tin foil?

Are you triggered, cry baby? Want some cheese with your whine?

Your candidate lost. Grow up and get over it.

mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 27, 2017 12:02 am
Dear Blessed Cheese Maker, One thing is clear…..you love your Trump. Let me continue my educational rant so perhaps you can learn a little. Trump has singled handedly in his first 5 days in office….ignited what appears to be a trade war with Mexico. Threatening a 20% tarrif on imports to pay for a big wall….that wont work. Do you like Guacamole, how about tomatoes, how about visits to Cancun? How about clean sheets on your next trip with a hotel stay to see your kids. How about fresh fruit from California…..how about new houses, construction work, concrete work!!!!! How about who processes all of our chicken and beef. How about restaurant workers?? Who is going to milk cows! or make cheese?? Who is going to weld or drill wells? These are the Mexican people. They are the hardest working people I have ever seen and they do it with joy and a smile. Trump hates them…. He has utter dispise for Hispanics…..even Hispsnic judges that are highly respected American citizens. He is a dictator and uses his power to bully the media and ever promote fake news. The new buzz word is Alternative Facts…..he shuts down government agency access… Read more »
Ben Toldovigan
Ben Toldovigan
January 28, 2017 7:21 am

One blowhard ranting out of his head about another.

Mark, maybe what you need is a tinfoil Pussyhat…and some tranquilizers. Some people think raw milk enthusiasts are crazy and now here you are proving it. Thanks Mark. With spokespeople like you we don’t need enemies.

Gordon S Watson
Gordon S Watson
January 28, 2017 12:05 pm
Those of us who endured a quarter of a century under the Kaka-stocracy ensconced in the Blight House, are amused, watching the Trump Derangement Syndrome manifest. But it’s no joke when it becomes permanent in an individual. If … ‘it takes a village to raise a child’ … then, at what point is intervention warranted to assist a member of the community, who’s thrashing-around verbally … deep in distress? If, in his capacity as a seasoned Para-medic Mark McAffee, were to arrive at a scene and find someone in the throes of a psychotic episode – as he, obviously, is on this forum – what would he do? Yes, I know it’s illegal for me to diagnose at a distance, but Mr McAffee’s mental health is deteriorating right before our eyes. Not only refusing to apologize for absurd epithets against people like me (who never did him anything but good) … redoubling his idiocy in sexual terms, are classic symptoms of a meltdown … it doesn’t take a degree in psychiatry, to understand that he’s certifiably nuts-O. Predicting “Impeachment” even as the Republicans hold the Presidency? and both houses of Congress?? stronger than that party has been for most of… Read more »
bora petski
bora petski
January 29, 2017 5:24 pm

Gordon you are a hoot. I used to think Mark made sense and you didn’t but now I’ve flipped, he’s gone bonkers and you make more sense than anybody around here. I hate politics.

mark mcafee
Mark Mcafee
January 28, 2017 10:28 am

Dear Ben, please take one thing that I have said…..and disprove it! Absolutely everything I have said is true. How is that blowing hard? It is not….it is speaking truth to power. Alternative facts are not allowed….just the facts please.

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January 28, 2017 9:45 pm

“Argumentum ad absurdum” or “argumentum ad ignorantiam” has just been illustrated to us by Mr. McAfee. Thanks for the perfect example of this classical Greek technique of making a non-argument. Mark, you continue to astound us. You really should stick to the raw milk issues here. You are way out of your league and way out of your knowledge base otherwise.

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